‘US textbooks misrepresent Jews, Israel’

Jerusalem Post is not pleased with how Islam and Muslim are presented in text books in the US: “The same glossary describes the Koran as a “Holy Book of Islam containing revelations received by Muhammad from God” – without a conditional qualifier.” And what do they mean by conditional qualifiers? Like the setence should add: and Muslims are a bunch of blood-thirsty terrorists?
Posted by As’ad at 9:27 AM

Olmert: Israel withdrawal needed – Why do they do that when they leave office ?

“Did you hear Olmert talk about freeing Most the westbank , east Jerusalem and the Golan heights ?
Why do they do that when they leave office ? Like Jimmy carter when he rememebered the Palestinians when he left office . ?”
fatima.

Yes Fatima, I read it at Al-Manar
My best simple answer to your question is: They don’t do that in order to stay at the office, they say it on leaving because they have nothing to lose. Rabin, was kiled before doing it.

However, Almert is not the first and shall not be the last, his saying reflect the bankrupcy and The Coming Collapse of Zionism, and confirms the promice of Nasralla, and expose the treason /cowardnes of Abbas and most of Arab leaders, and tired/stupid “intelctual” mouning Panarabism and Islam.

Fatima, you have seen samples of them at BARBI HOUSE,wearing the uniform of General Giyab asking Hamas fighters to hide, denying the existance of Iraqi resistance: “Iraqi resistance what Iraqi resistance?” Though, despite what hate, is the first resistance in history that started immediatly after the invasion and continued to survive almost without any external help.

At the same house, Barbi house, you have seen cowards who fled from day one to their save havens In US daring to speak on behalf of the Iraqi resistance, and attack the legal son of Islam and panarabism.

At Barbi house, you have seen Abu Kalabsha (in case you have seen the Ghawar’s series Sah alnoum) investigating the assasination of Mogniyeh and General Suliman, hoping his prophency on Assad’s Visiting Jerusalim to come true, waiting the fall of Tahran and wondering if the Iranians would, like Iraqis kill each other in accordance with the history as pre-witten by his prophet, Kissinger.

LONG LIVE PALESTINE, sorry, I meant BARBI

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Olmert: Israel withdrawal needed

Contributed by Fatima

Israeli reaction to Ehud Olmert’s comments on withdrawal from occupied land

Outgoing PM Ehud Olmert says Israel must withdraw from almost all the land it occupied in 1967 if it wants peace with Syria and the Palestinians.

He said this would include parts of East Jerusalem, which Palestinians want as the capital of their future state.

Mr Olmert also said any peace deal with Syria would require an Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights.

He gave few further details, but said he was prepared to go beyond previous Israeli leaders to achieve peace.

“We have to reach an agreement with the Palestinians, the meaning of which is that in practice we will withdraw from almost all the territories, if not all the territories,” Mr Olmert said.
“We will leave a percentage of these territories in our hands, but will have to give the Palestinians a similar percentage, because without that there will be no peace,” he added.
He said the withdrawals would include Jerusalem, the eastern part of which Israel occupied and annexed after the 1967 war, but which it has long proclaimed as its “eternal, undivided capital”.
Security basis

The remarks, which immediately stirred controversy among Israelis, were published in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth.

Former Meretz chairman Yossi Beilin said: “Olmert has committed the unforgivable sin of revealing his true stance on Israel’s national interest just when he has nothing left to lose.”
Meanwhile MK Yuval Steinitz accused Mr Olmert of gambling on Israel’s future.
“Ignoring the distance between rockets fired from afar and the enemy sitting on top of Jerusalem reveals how little he understands the basis of security,” Mr Steinitz said.
About 400,000 Israeli settlers live in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Another 20,000 Israelis live on the Golan Heights plateau.

Mr Olmert faces serious corruption allegations, and is acting as caretaker prime minister after resigning earlier this month.

Correspondents say there is little likelihood that any peace deals will be agreed in his final weeks in office.

Olmert: Israel Must Quit East Jerusalem and Golan

Olmert Has Flip-Flopped again: “Convergence” Is Resurrected as a New, “Softer” Saudi Plan
By Susan Rosenbluth,
EditorThe Jewish Voice and OpinionEnglewood, NJ 07631
January 2007

Last month, there were indications that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s “convergence plan,” which calls for the unilateral withdrawal of Israel from most of Judea and Samaria and the expulsion of tens of thousands of Jews from their homes and communities, may be due for a resurrection—this time by Saudi Arabia.

Although Israel and Saudi Arabia have no official diplomatic relations, US Ambassador to Israel Richard Jones revealed that the two countries have been holding high-level secret talks on the issue of terrorism.

Denying that he had any details on the meetings, Mr. Jones suggested that the Olmert government is taking a second look at the long-rejected Saudi “peace plan” proposed in 2002 at a meeting of the Arab League in Beirut and publicized by New York Times columnist Tom Friedman.

“I think [the Israelis] recognize that Saudi Arabia’s policies have evolved in recent years and that Saudi Arabia is now more interested, and more on the side of peace. The Israelis are warming to that,” said Mr. Jones.

Similar Plans

Defense Minister Amir Peretz said the Saudi plan, which calls for Israel to surrender all the land restored to the Jewish State in the 1967 Six-Day War, could be the basis for an agreement with the Palestinian Authority. Mr. Olmert has made similar statements.
In return, the Saudi plan offers recognition of the State of Israel by Arab countries.
The only differences between the Saudi plan and Mr. Olmert’s “convergence” map is that the Israeli prime minister would like not to surrender heavily populated Jewish areas such as the Jerusalem suburbs of Neve Ya’akov and Ma’aleh Adumim.

The original Saudi plan called for the newly created Palestinian state to be given eastern Jerusalem as its capital, including the Old City with the Temple Mount.

Weakened Israel
According to various reports, including one by the Qatari-based Al Jazeera, the contacts between Israel and Saudi Arabia began soon after Israel’s perceived defeat in last summer’s war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Mr. Olmert has publicly praised Saudi Arabia for its regional peace plan and for its position opposing Iran’s nuclear development program. The Israeli prime minister said he admired Saudi King Abdullah’s “wisdom and sense of responsibility” and his efforts in the region “both those made publicly and others as well.”
When asked by Yediot Achronot if he had met with senior Saudi officials, Mr. Olmert said only, “I don’t have to answer every question.”
The Saudis on the other hand flatly denied meeting with Israeli officials.

“Softer” Plan
There is some speculation that the Saudis are trying to create a “softer” version of their plan, which might be acceptable to the PA’s Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. Jordanian sources told Ha’aretz new elements include an Israeli withdrawal to “temporary lines” and a Palestinian five-year ceasefire, during which the two sides would carry out negotiations and engage in economic cooperation.

The original Saudi plan called for Israel to grant all Arabs who left their homes in 1948 and 1967, as well as their descendants, a “right of return.” The result would mean millions of Arabs flooding Israel, ending its status as a Jewish state.
Neither the Fatah nor Hamas branch of the PA has relinquished that “right of return,” and it is unclear if any new Saudi proposal will in any way “soften” that part of its plan as well.

No “Right of Return”
Mr. Olmert has not given any indication that he now plans to accept the Palestinian “right of return.”

In a recent policy speech which angered not only members of the right in Israel, but also his own Kadima party, Mr. Olmert promised the Palestinians that in exchange for an end to terrorism, the establishment of a government that will recognize Israel, and the release of kidnapped Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, he would be ready to grant the PA a contiguous and independent state on the West Bank and Gaza, the release of “many” terrorists currently incarcerated in Israeli prisons, and the “evacuation of many territories and [Jewish] communities that were established therein.”

To get this, Mr. Olmert said, the Palestinians would have to relinquish their demand for the “right of return.” That was a deal breaker.
“We reject any deal that does not recognize the right of return,” said the Damascus-based Hamas deputy leader Moussa Abu Marzouk. “The Palestinian people will never give up this sacred right. Our people have been fighting for 58 years to achieve the right of return for all those who were expelled from their homeland.”

In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Razi Hamad accused Mr. Olmert of “trying to bypass the core of the Palestinian cause, namely the right of return for the refugees.”

Common Enemies

Analysts say there are reasons, in addition to his speech, to believe Mr. Olmert is considering the Saudi plan, which can be seen as an extension of his own convergence plan with the added benefit of it not being unilateral.

Just recently, Saudi and US defense officials, including Vice President Richard Cheney, met for the most comprehensive talks the two countries have had together in years. The discussion reportedly centered on the growing threat from Iran’s rapidly developing offensive power and concerns about the international Al Qaeda terrorist organization, issues that worry Israel as well.
Last month, Saudi officials publicly launched a campaign that is purportedly geared to teaching children the dangers of terrorism. The kingdom’s education department said it is trying to combat the culture of terrorism that tries to engage young children in martyrdom activities.

Party of Withdrawal

Before 2005, Mr. Olmert was a member of the right-wing Likud party. Then he veered left and joined former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s Kadima Party, which was formed for the sole purpose of supporting Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. Under Mr. Olmert, Kadima is now the party that supports withdrawal from Judea and Samaria.
Last month, 200 residents of the Samarian community of Migron, located near Beit El and Psagot, were told that they will be expelled forcibly from their homes unless they reach a “voluntary evacuation” agreement with the Olmert government.

Peace Now, the radical left-wing group dedicated to ending Jewish presence in Judea and Samaria, brought the issue of Migron to court, claiming it was built on private Arab land. The land is officially listed that way, but, residents say, before Peace Now sought the Arabs out and encouraged them to make their claims, they had not done so.

“Restraint”
The prime minister has come under continuous political attack, including strong calls for his immediate resignation, not only from the right, but increasingly from the center as well, for his perceived mismanagement of the war in Lebanon last summer and his insistence on a policy of “restraint” regarding a ceasefire with Palestinians in Gaza. It is estimated that since the ceasefire went into effect on November 26, more than 60 Qassams—an average of two each day—have fallen in Sderot and other Negev communities bordering Gaza.

Most of the mortars, which are usually timed to land just when children are going to school, have caused a great deal of material damage, but few casualties beyond shock and panic.
But on Tuesday, December 26, a Qassam that landed in Sderot seriously wounded two 14-year-old boys when the rocket hit their residential building. It had been the seventh rocket fired that day, one of which had landed near a strategic site in the southern port town of Ashkelon. The other rocket attacks caused no casualties.

Pinpoint”
In response to the attack on the boys, Mr. Olmert agreed to allow the IDF to conduct “pinpoint operations” against Qassam launching cells, which means soldiers can take action against specific terrorists when they are detected.

Military sources said the new policy would not even help reduce the number of rockets fired at western Negev communities, let alone stop them.
“Pinpoint operations are a step in the right direction, but really only partially. Security forces must be allowed to control the area in a more effective manner,” said Maj-Gen (ret) Yiftah Ron-Tal.

Mr. Ron-Tal warned that it is extremely difficult to spot terrorists in the act of launching rockets and almost impossible to attack them once they are identified.
Like other senior IDF officers, Mr. Ron-Tal criticized Mr. Olmert for turning down a proposal to allow Israeli forces to cross the Gaza border and create a security buffer zone.

Helping Hamas
Labor MK Danny Yatom, a former head of the Mossad intelligence agency and a candidate to lead the Labor party, also called for an end to government restraint. He said Israel must respond sharply to the terrorists to ensure that they have a reason not to violate any future ceasefires.
Even Mr. Peretz, leader of the left-wing Labor Party, said it was uncertain that preventing the IDF from operating against the Qassams was actually “working to the benefit of the moderates.”
The head of Israel’s Military Intelligence research division, Yossi Beidetz, told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that Hamas is benefiting from the ceasefire.

“They are continuing to smuggle, dig tunnels, and exercise military maneuvers learned from Hezbollah. They are bolstering their ground defense systems, and they are getting help from Syria and Iran with their military plans. If this continues, we have to consider what the situation on the ground will look like in a year,” he said.

Brig-Gen Sami Turjeman agreed, telling the committee that, in another few months, the IDF will have to deal “with military capabilities of the terror organizations that we haven’t been familiar with until now, especially in the realm of anti-tank missiles.”

Preventing Unity
Mr. Olmert argued that a military response to the rockets could unite the warring Hamas and Fatah factions against Israel. He also pointed out that the 60 rockets that have fallen in the month since the ceasefire was announced, is less than the 250 rockets that were launched the month before.

Shin Bet head Yuval Diskin said Islamic Jihad and renegade Fatah factions were the groups responsible for most of the Qassam rocket fire and that while members of Hamas were not launching the mortars, the Hamas government was unlikely to try to stop them.
According to reports in the Israeli press, the groups firing the rockets have another motive besides hatred of Israel. Israeli intelligence sources say Hezbollah troops are smuggling Iranian cash into Gaza which is then offered to terrorists directly, on an attack-by-attack basis.
According to the Jerusalem Post, Hezbollah is paying “thousands of dollars” for each Qassam rocket fired at Israel.
“Sometimes they are paid before the attack and sometimes they submit a bill to Lebanon afterwards and the money gets transferred a short while later,” a security official told the Post.

Letting Them Through
In addition to the problems with terrorism from Gaza, there have been scores of other terrorist incidents in Judea and Samaria, most of which have gone almost unreported in the media. These range from stone throwing to stabbings and shootings. Dozens of Jews have been injured.
Nevertheless, as a concession to PA President Mahmoud Abbas, Mr. Olmert was initially willing to eliminate 57 checkpoints (some reports say the number was closer to 400) through which Palestinians in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza were compelled to pass. Eventually Mr. Olmert settled on easing inspections at 16 checkpoints and completely eliminating 27 roadblocks.

Israelis admit that the roadblocks make life uncomfortable for the Palestinians, most of whom are not terrorists, but, according to the IDF, 60 percent of all would-be suicide bombers are stopped at checkpoints. The military identifies these roadblocks as one of the country’s chief defenses against terror.

Checkpoints Work
Dozens of Palestinians trying to enter Israel with knives and explosives have been arrested at the checkpoints, thwarting their terrorist intentions.

Two weeks before Mr. Olmert ordered the checkpoints dismantled, a terrorist cell was caught with a large supply of explosives as its members attempted to cross the Eyn Bidan checkpoint just east of Shechem (Nablus). According to Arutz 7, when that checkpoint was removed briefly nine months ago, a terrorist passed through and later, dressed as a religious Jewish hitchhiker, murdered four Israelis. The checkpoint was re-established, but now will be removed again.
“The checkpoints work. It’s that simple. It’s how we stop terrorism,” said deputy Chief of Staff Moshe Kaplinsky.

The strong disapproval expressed by the military prompted analyst Aaron Lerner of the IMRA news agency to suggest Mr. Olmert might be guilty of “reckless endangerment.”

Cash and Arms
Other concessions made by Mr. Olmert include the transfer of $100 million in frozen PA taxes, the transfer of more than $7 million to Palestinian-run hospitals in Jerusalem, and permission for Egypt and Jordan to provide Mr. Abbas’s forces with weapons for Fatah’s struggle with Hamas.

After Egypt, with Israel’s permission, transferred 2,000 Kalashnikov rifles, 20,000 rounds of ammunition, and 2 million bullets to Fatah through the Gaza-Egypt border crossing, the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC), another terrorist group which cooperates with Hamas, said those arms would be used against Israel.

“We vow to show the Israelis very soon the weapons they lately channeled to [Fatah forces] will be directed against the occupation,” said Muhammed Abdel Al, a spokesman for the PRC.
Turned on Jews

According to Mr. Al, all PA security services, including those supposedly loyal to Mr. Abbas, include “activists affiliated with all the Palestinian groups, including ours and Hamas.”
“At least a third of the workforce in the security apparatuses are affiliated with the resistance movements,” he said, adding that members of the security services have also sold weapons to Palestinian terror groups.

Israel’s past experience points to the accuracy of Mr. Al’s statements. “Israeli soldiers and citizens will be killed by these weapons,” predicted Likud MK Yuval Shteinitz, former chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.

Prisoner Exchange
During his first meeting with Mr. Abbas, Mr. Olmert stuck to the original Israeli demand that captured IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, held since June 25 by several Palestinian militant groups in Gaza, would have to be released before any Palestinian terrorists held in Israeli prisons would be freed.

But by the end of December, Mr. Olmert was discussing the release of some prisoners as a gesture to Mr. Abbas, even before Mr. Shalit was let go. A cabinet source told Reuters Mr. Olmert had said, “The time has come for flexibility and generosity, and Israeli policy could be different than what has been said in past meetings.”

Part of that flexibility seems to be a willingness to release Palestinian terrorists who have been responsible for violence against Jews, those whom Israelis say “have blood on their hands.”
Mr. Abbas wants all 11,000 Palestinian prisoners incarcerated by Israel to be released. Mr. Olmert is reportedly considering releasing 1500.

Bethlehem
Mr. Olmert has also committed Israel to convening a joint committee to discuss allowing the terrorists who laid siege to Bethlehem and the Church of the Nativity in 2002 to return to the PA.

In that incident, for more than 30 days, some 150 Fatah terrorists held an equal number of Christian clergymen hostage, trashed the church and its holy books, and, in the words of one of the victims, “stole everything.”

To the great relief of Bethlehem’s Christian community, 13 of the ringleaders of the siege were deported to Cyprus and then dispersed to European countries. Twenty-six were sent to Gaza.
Now Mr. Olmert seems intent on allowing them to return, as a way of boosting Mr. Abbas’s popularity.

Judea and Samaria
Another issue on which Mr. Olmert has wobbled is the Palestinian demand that Israel extend the ceasefire to Judea and Samaria. Originally, Mr. Olmert told Mr. Abbas the Palestinians must first demonstrate an ability to uphold the truce in Gaza.

Then Mr. Olmert issued instructions that, even in Judea and Samaria, IDF soldiers were to “moderate” their activity.
The security establishment said the new policy would endanger Israeli citizens.

“Collaborating”
Many Israelis, but especially residents of Sderot, have reacted with outrage to Mr. Olmert’s concessions. National Union MK Dr. Aryeh Eldad accused the prime minister of “collaborating,” and his NU colleague, MK Tzvi Hendel called Mr. Olmert “disgusting.”

Dr. Eldad said that by giving money to the PA while the Palestinian government held a kidnapped Israeli soldier and allowed rockets to be fired at Israel, Mr. Olmert was “ in violation of the law banning the funding of terrorism, and is collaborating with Israel’s enemies.”
Mr. Hendel said he had “no expectations from a man who is so devoid of morality that in the middle of a terrorism war, and amidst threats of murderous terrorism from every direction, he is not embarrassed to promise the enemy the expulsion of the Jewish residents and the establishment of a terror state.”

Looking for Ways
The Almagor organization, which represents victims of Arab terror attacks, announced that it will present a petition to the High Court against the plan to transfer the tax funds.
“Olmert has no way to ensure that the money will not reach Hamas,” said Meir Indor, the leader of Almagor.
Asked how Mr. Olmert would prevent the funds from helping Hamas, his spokeswoman, Miri Eisen, was vague. “The money itself will not be transferred to the Hamas-led government, and right now we are looking for the right way to be able to transfer the money for different humanitarian issues,” she said.

Recognizing the Flag
When Messrs Olmert and Abbas met at the prime minister’s official residence in Jerusalem on December 23, the two shook hands and kissed each other on the cheek. They took seats opposite each other at a long table set for a meal with Israeli and Palestinian flags as centerpieces. It was the first time an Israeli prime minister had recognized the flag of Palestine.

After the meeting, Mr. Olmert’s office issued a statement saying they had met “in a good and friendly atmosphere” and had “expressed their willingness to cooperate—as genuine partners—in an effort to advance the peace process between Israel and the PA and to reach a solution of two states living side by side in peace and security, according to the Road Map.”

Mr. Olmert has described Mr. Abbas as “an adversary” with whom Israel can do “business.” The concessions, Mr. Olmert said, were necessary to strengthen Mr. Abbas so that he can fight Hamas and make peace with Israel.

Bowing to Pressure
Jerusalem Post columnist Caroline Glick disagreed, saying if Mr. Abbas were really interested in peace, he would be asking Israel to do whatever possible to escalate the fight against terrorism.
“He would prefer that [terrorists] rot in jail and not be released to enjoy the freedom to kill again. In other words, if Abbas were interested in peace he would be doing precisely the opposite of what he is doing,” she said.

She accused Mr. Olmert of bowing to pressure from the Bush administration, which has demonstrated its interest in having Israel make concessions to Mr. Abbas while avoiding discussions with Syria, which the US is seeking to isolate.

No Concessions
Mr. Olmert’s concessions have been dismissed by the PA’s Hamas government as worthless.
PA Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zafar, a member of Hamas, told students at the Islamic University in Gaza that the solution to the conflict is not the creation of a Palestinian state, as formulated by the Saudi plan, in the territories won by Israel in 1967, but rather the “total liberation of all Palestinian lands,” a popular Arab euphemism for all of the State of Israel.
Referring to Mr. Olmert, Mr. Zahar said even Israelis have begun to question whether Israel will continue to exist in the next few decades.

A Religious Battle

Mr. Zahar’s Hamas colleague, PA Deputy Director for Religious Affairs Salah Alrakab told the students that Islam forbids signing a peace agreement with Jews, because “the conflict with Jews is a religious, existential struggle and is not a conflict over borders.”

The Jews, he said, have no claim to the land of Israel except the Torah, and that, he continued, “has already been proven to be a forgery.”

He said liberation of the land will be accomplished only by jihad and the “general mobilization of the Islamic nation,” which, he said, is the shortest way to restore Palestinian rights and “shrink the greed of the Jews.”

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Zionist Historiographical Trickery: Benny Morris and 1948.

Asad AbuKhalil, The Angry Arab News Service

Saturday, September 27, 2008

When I read Benny Morris’ massive study, 1948, I became convinced that many of the reviewers in the press did not probably read the whole thing. I say so because even reviews in serious publications, like the Economist–the best magazine there is–did not note the racist and disturbingly political biases of the author. The agenda of the author (who at least has revealed his true colors when he expressed his acceptance of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians) is not hidden if you bother to read the book and the endnotes.

But at least one thing made me laugh: Israeli historians now have a habit: they of course continue to ignore and disregard Palestinian narratives from their histories, but they include a token account, that of the diaries of Khalil As-Sakakini, and only those diaries. The diaries have been published in Hebrew so it does not require knowledge of Arabic: even Tom Segev in his really massive, One Palestine: Complete, ignores Palestinian but manages to include that Sakakini account. Morris does the same, but it is hardly surprising.
In fact, it is very clear in the book by Morris that he really does not think that Palestinians amount to humans. He not only ignores their sufferings but ignores their deaths. Only Zionist victims are mentioned and counted. Now you are by now wondering (assuming that you have not dosed off) about the trickery I mention in the headline: you see, I have encountered this feature in Israeli historiogrophy, like in Yehoshua Porath in his history of the Palestinian national movement. You would be reading some analysis of account on Palestinian public opinion or even sentiments and feelings, and then you look at the endnotes only to find a Jewish Agency’s report, or some report by some Zionist organization.

Do you see what I am saying. For example, Morris is keen in this book to assume throughout that Palestinian Christians and Muslims were at each other’s throats since the beginning of the Zionist invasion of the land. So keen, that I encountered only one reference to the Muslim-Christian associations when they were the nucleus of Palestinian national organization in Palestine. On p. 13, he goes on about fears and hatred between Muslim and Christian Palestinians (and slogans that were invented by agents of the Zionist organiztion), and then you go to the endnote and you find some silly reference to a silly report by some silly agent of the silly Zionist organization at the time. No evidence, whatever, at a time when a Christian Palestinian (Emile Ghuri) was chosen to lead the party of the Mufti (Hajj Amin Al-Husayni).
Morris also typically identifies any Palestinian opposition to Zionism as anti-Semitic (p. 8; he finds some obscure article by some obscure person and yet he does not cite the thousands of Palestinian statements, poems, flyers, and proclamations that clearly expressed opposition to anti-Semitism. He could have bothered checked the private collection of Akram Zu`aytar which contains all that and more, but he did not. And Zionist discussions about the explusion of Arabs from their land is discussed casually by Morris (see pp. 18-19).
His account of how Palestinians fared under Zionism is as fictious as was the account in Herzl’s work of fiction, Alteuland. Morris says that Palestinian assets “grew substantially” under Zionism (p. 25). And when he cites outrageous statements by Zionists, he never offers any comments, when he is unrestrained if any Palestinain said anything that bothered him. He again casually cites Ben Gurion when he said about Arabs: “And it is better to expel them than jail them.” (p. 52) And what is hilarious about this book is that–typical of Zionist accounts–there is such love expressed for the Hashemites, presumably due to the their services to Zionism over the decades. (He says that the Jordanian regime “flourishes” (p. 419) under King PlayStation). He even maintains that all Arab leaders at the time suffered from a crisis of legitimacy..except King `Abdullah (p. 66), as if he died from high cholesterol.

And the notion that Plan D did not intend to expel Arabs because it did not say so on paper (p. 121) is as ridiculous as the claim by anti-Semitic David Irving when he talks about the smokin’ gun and the Nazis. He admits in the book (twice) that Zionists killed more POWs than the other side did but he always finds excuses to justify the deed and to justify the FACT that more prisoners were killed by Zionists than by the Arabs by talking about Zionist military victories and control of more lands.(p. 153)
The conclusion of this propagandistic book is clearly written for the readers in the West in post-Sep. 11 world. He goes on (in a section that is written by the style you read by anti-Islam haters in neo-con media these days) to elaborate on the “Jihadi impulse.” (p. 395) He wants to convince the reader that Palestinian Arab opposition to Zionism was rooted in religious bigotry: as if the Palestinians would have acted differently if their lands were stolen and occupied, say, by Buddhists or Hindus or atheists.

But then Morris has to contend with the fact of Palestinian Christian opposition to Zionism. He has to explain it. So what does Morris do here. I kid you not, he says this: “Even Christian Arabs appear to have adopted the Jihadi discourse.” (p. 395) I kid you not. Is that not funny? So George Habash and Nayif Hawitimah and Edward Said and `Azmi Bisharah are all motivated by Jihadi impulses. Thus is Zionist historiogrophy.

It is also equally comical when he maintains that the Arabs were stronger than the Yishuv in Palestine. To bolster his case, or to make it sound less ridiculous, he says that they were stronger in “geopolitical terms”(p. 398)–whatever that means. Maybe by that token, Panama is stronger than the US in “geopolitical terms”. He does not shy away from invoking the racist arguments of Patai and others about Arabs: he talks about Arab traditions of “disunity, corruption, and organizational incompetence.” (p. 399) I guess that Olmert is resigning due to the Arab tradition of corruption. And is Morris trying to make us laugh when he refers to the Zionist forces as “ragtag Jewish militia”(p. 400). Ragtag in comparison to what? The Arab forces with their 19th century rifles in some cases? He does admit that both sides killed civilians but he argues that the Arabs killed civilians “deliberately” while the Zionists did so accidentally or recklessly but provides no evidence for the claim (p. 404). He then adds that massacres decreased after the transformtion of forces on both sides into regular armies but then adds casually “except for the series of atrocities committed by IDF troops…” (p. 405). Is this guy for real?

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2008/09/zionist-historiographical-trickery.html

Both Arab nationalism and Islam have failed, and failed badly.

Thus Said the Anal-ysist at PP

“I judge movements, leaders and parties by results not rhetoric”

“When I look at what has happened, and is still happening, in the region in general and in Iraq in particular, I see the clear failure, even the death of the two major competing ideologies in the region.,two major competing ideologies in the region.”

Comment: I wonder why the PP anal-ysist failed to see the clear failure, even the death of the third competing ideology in the region. I mean Left-Marxism-communisms, Most likely because he consider himself a leftist dreaming that his left would be the new force after the death of Arab nationalism and Islam .

“On the one hand we see that the one party, the Ba’th, which preached Arab unity and Arab nationalism, could not even unite one country, Iraq, let alone the entire Arab world. First the two branches of the party (the Syrian and Iraqi branches) fought each other, literally to death.”

“each branch of the party could not and would not create the model state that could be an inspiration for the promised Arab unity and something to inspire and give a boost to Arab nationalism. They instead ruled by an iron fist and by using the policies of divide-and-conquer and encouraging tribalism.”

Comment: Neither Iraq, nor Syria were true representatives for Arab nationalism, Saddam was the true respective of Arab racism. The anal-ysist ignored Nasir, the true representative of Arab nationalism. He failed to mention how Arab masses, 52 years before Hugo Chavezago, from the Gulf to the Atlantic ocean reacted when UK -France and Israel attacked Egypt to topple Nasir, how they reacted when he resigned after 1967 defeat, and after his death.

Moreover, the Anal-ysist ignored that while Saddam and his Iraqi Baath was fighting the American war against Iran, Only Sadam’s “Comrade” Hafez Assad and his Syrian Baath stood with Iran, and his son is still standing with Iran.

Hezbollah is the LEGAL SON of the Syrian- Iranian Marriage, the marriage of Islamic Ideology and Syrian Nationalism.

“If indeed most Iraqis felt so strongly that they belonged to and benefited from the Ba’th regime and that they had a strong stake in preserving the Iraqi state, why has the majority not fought the occupation? Why, at the earliest opportune moment, major sections of the Iraqi population opted to side with the occupiers and with Iran instead of fighting for Iraq? That tells us something about the prevailing state up until the invasion.”

Comment: Indeed it tells about the prevailing state and its racist version of Arab Nationalism that fail to unite even Anbar tribes.

“The majority of the Shiites sided with Iran against their own country and the majority of Kurds decided that they are not Iraqis! So, Iraq is no more; hardly the model of Arab unity to be presented to the rest of the Arabs.”

Comment: Iraq was never the Model of Arab unity

“Then we were told that the problem was in Arab nationalism itself, that the Arabs have to transcend this to something higher and that Islam was the answer. The Iranian revolution was to be the vanguard of this new force: the Islamic revolution.”

“Of course it was not an accident that the two countries spearheading these two major ideologies fought a vicious and bloody war for eight years that killed about a million (Muslims I may add) from each side. We know that the US imperialists wanted both sides to destroy each other, and Henry Kissinger used to say — “we want them to kill each other!” But why did the two fools cooperate so well with Kissinger against their own interests?”

“Just as the US wanted both sides to destroy each other, Iran sought to use the US to destroy the Ba’th regime in Iraq…”

“Along these same lines I saw the Syrian regime recently establish full diplomatic relations with the occupied Maliki “government;” something it has not done since the eighties. Some Arab unity and some Syrian “steadfastness”!”

Comment: Here the “Objective” PP anal-ysist, to please the Baathi thugs at PP, he ignored that it Sadam not Iran who launched the 8 years war and Iran was simply defending itself, that Saddam who clamed defending the eastern gate of the Arab world, opened all the gates to Usrael, including the gates of Baghdad.

Consequently, the defeated PP anal-ysist who left Gaza 40 years ago, is waiting for a new force:
“For those who will survive they will have to wait for a new force, a new movement. Both Arab nationalism and Islam have failed, and failed badly.”

I accept facts, mentioned above, and in the comments below mainly written by Lucia, and saker, despite difference about Arab nation, and Muslim Umma..
I said on several occasions, the west used Nationalism against Islam represented by Ottoman empire, then used both reactionary Islam, and Nationalism against communism, Used reactionary Islam to destroy Naser the most prominent representative of true Arab nationalism.


YES, Arab movements, nationalists, Islamists (Muslim brothers) and leftists failed to recognize who is the main enemy, and to put secondary difference aside. Nationalist failed to recognize that Islam was the first nationalist movement the united Arabs, that racism against non-Arab Muslims, paved the way for the failure of Amaweyades and Abasades empires.

On the other hand Leftists failed to recognize that Islam was the first Arab leftist movement.

As far as I m concerned, I don’t feel any conflict, being Palestinian by birth, Arabic by Nationality, Muslim by religion, and leftist by Ideology.

Comment at PP;

I like your comment. I only have minor discrepancies on some details.
I always wondered -perhaps because I am not an arab- about two concepts:

-the “arab nation”, that is panarabism
-the “Muslim unity”

I try to respect them, but honestly, cannot grasp them. If –by making a traspolation– someone spoke to me of “hispanism” in the sense of uniting all spanish speaking countries, or “christian unity” to unite the various different religions and sects under the christian branch, my eyes would roll. Yet more, I’d think it is an eccentric idea. Every country, or more specifically, every state has interests of its own, and in all probability will not coincide with those of any other “brother” country.

So, as I do not completely understand the ideas of panarabism and umma, I can’t help but asking to myself if the different arab peoples should be just more focused on the own country, rather than expecting from others sharing a language or a religion to come and lend a hand, specially when perhaps this “other” has problems similar in size.

Perhaps it is a desiderata, and as such belongs in the realm of utopia por the time being, given the bad shape in which most of arab countries are nowadays.

Lucia 09.28.08 – 10:01 am #

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When the US tried to topple Hugo Chavez, and partially succeeded in a coup, millions of poor Venezuelans took to the streets demanding the release of their president. They were ready to fight and die for something they believed in, something they had created, something they had a stake in. That was not the case in Iraq. Tony

And could never be the case in Iraq, because the Venezuelans took to the streets to reclaim their leader, and I mean *their leader*, whom they chose, and had won 9 or 10 (I lost count) consecutive democratic polls, and who did wonders for the people there.

How did Saddam come to power, if not by the CIA’s hand, and causing a bloodbath? Whose iraqis would defend him, after he slaughtered kurds, shias, and “disafected” sunni in the hundreds of thousands? Yet mass-graves are being unearthed to this day.

The charisma of Chavez has nothing to do -thank god- with Saddam’s, even though his worshippers would say he was the “new Salahuddin”

So, the iraqis would not take to the streets to shield him, right on the contrary, millions of them wanted him dead. Only staunch baathists who profited from the regime would say otherwise. But, expect them to blame it on Iran. Driven by the partys cliches. they’re even unable of the mimimun of self-criticism.

Lucia 09.28.08 – 10:39 am #

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As America sinks into the sunset no longer a so-called “super-power,” it is time for the people of the Arab nations to rise up as one. What you have had to this point are regimes propped up by Western design, but those forces are no longer viable. As the support fails from Imperialism an opportunity arises, my recommendation is that the oppressed people of these regions take advantage of it.
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further to my 10:39, the Palestinians who are the most courageous people in the Middle East, did something similar when Arafat was besieged in the Mukata. They took to the streets, in defiance of curfews and tanks, and went to shield him – I think more out of compassion than due to his own merits as a leader. But they did it, in spite of being under a nazi-like occupation for 60 years.


Lucia 09.28.08 – 11:08 am #

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Lucia

About the Muslim unity , before the skyes picot divisions , there were no borders between Arab countries and Most felt that islam United them , (than these regimes that were the creation of foreign powers ). and You ll be suprised to hear so many people (on Live tv ) almost daily , dreaming about the Khilafa and islam being the unificator of all Arab countries . more and more Arab and Muslim Youth talk and dream about that (something that scares the hell of the Neocons and Bush )and breaking the “false” Borders as they call them.
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Thanks for your explanation Fatima. I’m aware of many people talking about it, and I can read about it too in articles by authors even from the left, Samara to mention one who I respect. But I fail to see it working. I mean, what have the people of Qatar to do with the Egyptians, or the Saudis, or the Algerians, or… any other arabic-speaking or Muslim people?

Other than unelected governments -ruthless for the most part- who rely on the USA to remain in power while they opress their people.

So, it seems to me that religion and language is not a glue strong enough as to show solidarity when most of them (perhaps Qatar fares much better) are undergoing big social problems and “difficult” times.

I second “v”‘s idea as the moment is ripe, but… where is the “arab che”? And when there is one, the shitty little state eliminates him. Scores of popular leaders have been liquidated. The only that wasn’t for the moment is Nasrallah. Let’s wish him a long life. But who is to be counted in other arab countries?


Lucia 09.28.08 – 11:33 am #

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Lucia 09.28.08 – 10:39 am

I agree partially, Lucia. However, it goes well beyond Saddam. Why have the Iraqis not stood up for THEIR Iraq? Not for Saddam or for Ba’th.

My point is that the majority, apparently, did not believe that they had a state worth dying for.
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 11:34 am #

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The kurds never felt iraqis, they feel and always felt kurds, and were promised a state at the same time the Palestinians were, and with about the same results… (this led them, but this is another story, to very unwise engagements throughout the years, and being betrayed once and again. They finally bet on the americans, so they will be left aside again. The americans use proxies and then abandon them as used toilet paper)

So the iraqi state was forced upon them. And yet, saddam massacred them. So thwy wouldn’t be expected to take to the streets to defend the Saddam who slaughtered them, or to defend an state which they did not feel their own. Thus the alliance with the invaders under the promise of having their kurdish state and their own oil-wells.

Would the south-shia defend saddam? They’d rather queue, jointly with the kurds, to be allowed to hang him.

Saddam only relied on his tribe, and a few staunch saddamists who lived very well under his rule, and looked the other way -if not applauded- his massacres. These same people is very concerned now by the presumed shia drillings. Were was the outrage when the shia were drilled, and were driven nails through their heads by Saddam’s henchmen?
Lucia 09.28.08 – 11:45 am #

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Lucia,

To elaborate a bit on the point Fatima made:

It is true that under the Ottoman Empire, the artificial boundaries between Arab states did not exist; those were drawn up by the colonial powers.

However, Fatima forgets that the Arabs were suckered into rebelling against and fighting the nominally Muslim Ottomans and aligning themselves with their new colonial masters.

Another point is that Islam, unlike the two other monotheist religions, advocates the concept of the Muslim Umma. Islam, at least in theory, is supposed to transcend nationalism.

Arab nationalism and unity is not just a romantic idea; in the fifties and sixties some strides were taken in that direction, especially under Nasser of Egypt. For a few years, Egypt and Syria even formed one nation and the expectation was that Iraq would also join. Nasser also played a significant role helping liberation movements in other Arab countries, in particular in Algeria. The defeat (of Egypt, Syria and Jordan in 1967) marked the end of that rising wave of Arab unity and Arab nationalism. Of course that was the main objective of that war to defeat and humiliate Nasser.

Comment; Here, like the asshole who considered the end of cold war as the end of history, the PP Anal-ysist, consider Nasir’s defeat in 1967 the end of the wave of the arab nationalism.

One last point. You made analogy to Spanish culture and the non-existence of unity among Spanish-speaking countries. Not quite true. The situation of the Arab countries is more analogous to Latin American countries. You have the same language, with the exception of Brazil, very similar culture and definitely a shared history. On top of that you have the same colonial domination for so long. The big difference is that Latin America has finally awakened with popular, leftist leaders forging real political, cultural, military and economic unity among their respective countries. It is the vision and policies of leaders such as Chavez, Lula, Morales, etc which you do not find in the Arab world, not even on the horizon.
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 12:00 pm #

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The big difference is that Latin America has finally awakened with popular, leftist leaders forging real political, cultural, military and economic unity among their respective countries
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 12:00 pm

This is the KEY!
The response to the questions you pose in your article, and the response to the problems the people in arab and muslim countries are undergoing.

Awakening!
And some leadership is necessary too. There have been leaders, I mean good popular leaders in ME, but have been liquidated by the big powers or by their surrogates. All of them, except Nasrallah. But more Nasrallahs are needed – at least one per country – to lead the uprising. Any moment one may appear, as it did in the Argelian revolution.

As to what you say about umma, catholicism also predicates unity and solidarity and so on. Actually the word catholic derives from latin catholicus and this from greek katolikós which means universal. But this universality is left for the religious/spiritual context, and translates -as does in Islam- in scores or charities and such.

Yes, Hispanidad does exist, as you indicated, (even with Portuguese-speaking Brasil) and translates into cooperation programs, etc. But what I meant is, other than these programs, or commercial/political treaties -as with any other country- the problems we have over here difer 180 degress from those of, let’s say, the Argentinean, or the Cuban. So, yes, there is solidarity, f.i. now with Cuba with the disaster they have suffered, but.. we are two worlds appart, even though we have many things in common, language among others. And we love them.


Lucia 09.28.08 – 12:36 pm #

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Very interesting and timely comment Tony. I fully agree on your assessment of the Baath so I will skip this. On Iran I think that you might be conflating two (or more) things:

Iran is not an ideology, it is a country whose government claims to represent, and act in accordance with, an Islamic ideology. You can have a highly critical view of Iran’s behavior and performance, but does that reflect on the Islamic ideology? Do I need to mention here that Hezbollah has EXACTLY the same religious AND political ideology? Do I need to remind anyone here that Nasrallah as a person and Hezbollah as a movement are not followers of the Lebanese Sheikh Fadlallah (who is *erroneously* identified by the corporate media as “Hezbollah’s spiritual leader) but that the are the followers of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei? Even Hezbollah’s structure mirrors the one of the Iranian state! So which is the best example of the Shia Islamic ideology, Iran or Hezbollah?

Then, Iran is far more diverse, pluralistic and decentralized than the Zionist-inspired Western corporate media likes to portray. Ahmadinejad represents only one of the various factions inside the Iranian polity. Should Iran be judged by Ahmadinejad’s actions?

Also, keep in mind that Iran is *literally* surrounded by US forces whose political bosses make no secret of their desire to attack Iran. Does that not explain why they would be very, very cautious in their actions. Would openly throwing all their weight behind the Sadrists really be the smart thing to do? What hurts the American Empire more, a double tag-team of headaches like Sadr and Maliki (whose only powerbase is the Iranian controlled Badr forces) or a clear cut insurgency?

Please get me right – I am very much “less than impressed” by Iran’s current policies in Iraq (which I, frankly, do not understand) and I am equally “less than impressed” with Ahmadinejad. But the man which I respect most in the entire Middle-East, Nasrallah, is firm in his unwavering support for, and alliance with, Iran. Does that not tell us that he might know, or understand, something which we are missing? Every time somebody criticizes Iran I bring the example of Nasrallah and say “explain this!”

What is the “Islamic ideology” which you say has failed? I submit that the Iranian Islamic Revolution is one thing and the Shia ethos is something quite distinct which cannot be reduced to, or conflated with, the former.

For all the ignorant views of the incurable secularists to the contrary, even a cursory acquaintance with Hezbollah and Nasrallah will show any non-prejudiced person that Shia Islam, its spirituality, its ethos and its worldview (in other words its ideology) are not only at the core of everything which Hezbollah is or does, but in fact defines and directs all the aspects of Hezbollah’s existence. Simply put, there is no way to understand anything about Hezbollah outside this “ideological” Islami
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More:
The Hispanoamerican countries fought their anticolonial wars, and won. Spain left the last colonies by the 1800. So, two hundred years have passed since the colonial power was evicted, however popular power is starting to take shape now, at least in some countries (I wouldn’t consider Lula on this lot, he follows free-marketism by the book and the poor and “sem terra” are still neglected).

There have also been popular leaders over there previously, but much the same as it happened in the arab countries- they were liquidated by
USA interventions or USA surrogates. Repression has been absolutely BRUTAL there, in special throughout the XXth century. And as you see, the empire continues at it. Look at the sedition recently sowed in Bolivia, Venezuela…

Hence, the process of education to awakening can never stop, for the greedy don’t stop either. Be eit in Hispano América, be it in the Arab world, be it in East Asia.


Lucia 09.28.08 – 12:54 pm #

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Hi Saker,

Re Iran I’m closer to your views than to Tony’s, as I have been commenting in older posts. These are the minor differences I have with Tony’s article, that I mentioned earlier, and call them minor because I think they don’t significatively change the general overview the article presents. But it is good you intervened, since you’ve got a good analysis over the situation in Iraq, and Iran’s role. I agree with you that Iran’s image is very deformed in the western media and is a far more sofisticated and complex country (and so are its policies and diplomacy) than many people are lead to believe.


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Tony,
I believe that it was the 1967 defeat that was the end and death of Arab nationalism. What took place in 1991 when Syria and other Arab countries actually sent troops to Destroy another Arab state was just the official funeral. Arabs never recovered from that defeat and in reality the Fall of Baghdad in 2003 was the last effect of the 1967 cause.
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VS,

As I said in my piece, I am a simple man from the proverbial state of Missouri; I judge by the things I see on the ground. And what do I see on the ground? Let me count the ways:

– I see Muslim Palestinians in Iraq being slaughtered and expelled by Shiite death squads which Iran easily controls.

– I see ethnic cleansing going on where entire sections of Baghdad have been ethnically cleansed.

– I see Iran’s closest surrogate, Hakim, calling for the splitting of Iraq by having a separate Shiite “federal” region in the south.

– I see Iran’s surrogate, Maliki, giving away Iraq’s wealth for generations to come by signing “deals” with American oil robbers.

– I see Iran’s man, again Maliki, concluding a so-called SOF agreement that guarantees the permanent occupation of Iraq.

– I see Hizbullah, with all of my admiration and respect, still refusing to criticize the Maliki puppet or the Shiite death squads, because of sectarian reasons and also in order not to displease Iran. As is repeatedly asked, why is it that the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon was fought, ferociously, and those who cooperated with the occupation were treated as traitors, but the same does not apply to Iraq?

I can go on and on. I do not have your sophistication to analyze the various power centers in Iran or the essence of the motivation of the Shiite theology; as I said I judge by the results I see.

Speaking of Hizbullah, and in spite of my admiration, I can’t forget that it continued to praise the Lebanese “army” while it was systematically destroying the Nahr El-Bared camp over the heads of some 30,000 Palestinian refugees. Most of those refugees have no homes to return to now. What has Hizbullah done about that? For political reasons it looked the other way and praised the Lebanese army’s heroism! Let us be as objective as we can be here.
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 3:39 pm #

Comment; It is Fath Al-Islam who destoyed Nahr Al-barid

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Tony, independently of Saker’s reply to you which I’ll read with interest, let’s see the other side of the coin (my two cents):

-Fact is that the oil wealth of Irak has not fallen yet into US/multinational hands thanks to Iran’s opposition. Muqtada, regardless all criticisms that can be made of him, has aborted the “oil-law” in several occasions. China’s deal had been already signed by Saddam’s cabinet.

-Same happens with the SOFA and with the permanence of foreign troops on Iraqi soil, what Iran opposes.

-Ethnic cleansing has gone in several directions. Mainly foreign death squads vs iraqis. Then shia-sunni, sunni-shia, kurds-iraqis, so called al-Q vs iraqis and you may add some. Proved that Iran helped stop bloodshed.

I can provide with links for all the above.

Now 3 questions to ponder:

-Could Hezbollah at that very difficult moment, and having in mind the higher interests of their own country, have acted other way when Hezbullah proper was under the radar?

-Isn’t it abundantly clear that Hezbollah DOES support the Palestinians?

-Could Iran, being submitted to pressure and threats by a crazied empire that did not hesitate dropping atomic bombs on another country after it *had surrendered*, could Iran act more defiantly that it did, or would it be oughtright suicidal?

Politics has more to do with the body of the iceberg that with its tip. I mean, declarations, photos and saking hands are for the most part for “consumption”; meanwhile real deals are played behind curtains out of the people’s sight.

“News is what someone wants to supppress. Everything else is advertising” – former NBC news prez Rubin Frank


Lucia 09.28.08 – 4:23 pm #

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for your reply. Let me, if I may, take your points one by one:

I see Muslim Palestinians in Iraq being slaughtered and expelled by Shiite death squads which Iran easily controls.

As far as I know this kind of stuff has largely stopped. But that is neither here nor there really, the real issue is what control, or lack thereof, Iran has over these militias. Not only that, but its not like Iran has many alternatives to the Badr forces and the Sadrists which, as far as I know, have both been involved in anti-Palestinian and anti-Sunni terror operations. Are we to assume that Iran could have prevented these things from happening or that Iran instigated them? I do not know, but ask yourself: does Iran even care about Palestinians in Iraq? I think that not. It is far more likely that the Iraqi Palestinians have paid the price for their support of Saddam and his terror state. “He who sows the winds reaps the storm as the French say”. I am not justifying anything, only pointing at the obvious causes and asking whether the blame for this can be laid on Iran?

– I see ethnic cleansing going on where entire sections of Baghdad have been ethnically cleansed.

Tony, Iran is not in charge of stopping the Iraqis of butchering each other, that is simply not Iran’s responsibility. I do not think that “Iraqi Shia = Iran”. There is plenty of Iraqi Shia extremism out there without any need for Iran to add fuel to the fire.

– I see Iran’s closest surrogate, Hakim, calling for the splitting of Iraq by having a separate Shiite “federal” region in the south.

And you see Sadr opposing this. So which of the two gets to speak for, or embody, Shia Islam and its ideology?!

– I see Iran’s surrogate, Maliki, giving away Iraq’s wealth for generations to come by signing “deals” with American oil robbers.

Now that is not serious. Iran totally and unequivocally opposes the SOFA and, last time I checked, the oil laws. I think that Maliki, as a typical prostitute, is doing the bidding of whomever promises him more power and money. Right now, this is the USA and not Iran. To simply blame anything and everything Maliki does is simply based on the mistaken assumption that Maliki is “Iran’s puppet”. Maliki happens to be the head of the only Shia government in Iraq and its not like Iran can ignore or, much less so, openly oppose that. But that does not mean that Iran like the guy or his policies. Do you really think that the Iranians don’t realize that Maliki is a prostitute willing to sell himself and his country to the highest bidder? Of course they know that, but they do not have an “Iraqi Nasrallah” out there, the only alternative is Sadr, not exactly a dream come true either…

I see Iran’s man, again Maliki, concluding a so-called SOF agreement that guarantees the permanent occupation of Iraq.

As I said, Iran totally opposes this and that, in turn, begs the question of why you blame everything Maliki does on Iran.

– I see Hizbullah, with all of my admiration and respect, still refusing to criticize the Maliki puppet or the Shiite death squads, because of sectarian reasons and also in order not to displease Iran.

You really think Tony that this sounds like Nasrallah? Being silent over a fundamental issue in order not to antagonize a country whose support he counts on? I really don’t think so, this is not at all in sync with the character of the man.

Tony, Nasrallah fears nothing other than God. I know, nowadays this is hard to believe used as we are to fully unprincipled politicians, but Nasrallah is a totally different creature from the typical modern politician.

As is repeatedly asked, why is it that the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon was fought, ferociously, and those who cooperated with the occupation were treated as traitors, but the same does not apply to Iraq? Because the main threat to Lebanon is external whereas in Iraq the external invader is just one factor in a much more complicated situation.

I agree with you, as far as I am concerned the occupiers of Palestine and the occupiers of Iraq are the soldiers of the same Empire – but the Iraqis have a lot of housecleaning to do before coming to realize that.

The problem here is not some “Islamic ideology” but the Iraqis lack of unity if purpose.
Look at how the former Baathists and Sunni turned into some “concerned citizens” and “sons of Iraq”! Is that not a disgrace? What does the Iranian revolution have to do with this?

!vineyardsaker
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Tony, as to the splitting of the shia-south, Iran and Muqtada (who is above all an iraqi nationalist) oppose it.

Let’s wait and see, because my impression -to the luck if iraqis- is It will be Iran’s bid snf not american’s bid, since america is within a trap of its own creation. US troops quitting Iraq safely depends on Iran.

In case the americans play the card of a free kurdistan, and its oil-wells, then it this partition cannot be avoided, maybe the segregation of the shia part could be accepted, as preferable to live again under the conditions they lived formerly. But Iran opposes partition and has said it loud and clear. The last Iran+Turkey+Syria want is a free Kurdistan. There won’t be partition.

Lucia 09.28.08 – 5:01 pm #

@Speaking of Hizbullah, and in spite of my admiration, I can’t forget that it continued to praise the Lebanese “army” while it was systematically destroying the Nahr El-Bared camp over the heads of some 30,000 Palestinian refugees. Most of those refugees have no homes to return to now. What has Hizbullah done about that? For political reasons it looked the other way and praised the Lebanese army’s heroism! Let us be as objective as we can be here.

Look, I am sorry for the innocent victims of this one, but you can hardly house Fatah al-Islam (which seems to be a CIA backed local franchise of the wider Salafist movement) and not expect that bad things will happen. To put it bluntly, I do not think that the Shias can afford to allow CIA backed Salafists to take root anywhere in Lebanon or anywhere else where the Shia live (I would even argue that everybody on the planet should strive at rooting out the sick and evil Salafist ideology wherever it sticks out its ugly head). We all know what future the Salafists envision for those they call “rejectionist idolaters”. That the Lebanese Army botched its operation there should not come as a surprise either as the “Lebanese Army” is more of a bad joke than a real fighting force. Serving tea and actually fighting are different things. What did you want, Hezbollah to go into Nahr El-Bared and kick the Salafists out? Sure they could do that, except that they try to avoid shooting at other Lebanese. So they let the Army do the dirty job and praised them for it. You expected them to denounce the Army?

And what does Iran and its ideology have to do with this mess anyway?
vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 5:04 pm #

vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 5:04 pm

Exactly.
CIA backed, and Saudi funded.

Saker I enjoyed your whole analysis and agree practically 100 per cent with it. Thanks for sharing your views


Lucia 09.28.08 – 5:10 pm #

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As you know, Turkey Iran and Syria have their own kurd population, courtesy of Sykes Picot. Allowing partition of kurdistan in Iraq would imply kurdish separatist problems would be exacerbated in their countries. Those three states don’t want it (regardless what we, as individuals, may think about kurdish people’s right to secede and form their own state)


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VS,

I don’t have the time to answer all your replies, but on the last one you are totally wrong, my friend.

To start with, the Palestinians do not control the entry or the exit from their camps in Lebanon; the army does. Those Salafis you refer to, were brought into the camp by the Hariri people with the full knowledge of some branches of the Lebanese government security. The Palestinians in the camp did not want these people, but they had no power to get rid of them.

The next point is that the Lebanese army systematically destroyed the entire camp, not just the isolated pockets where the Salafis were.

I posted articles written by Marcy Newman (among others) from inside the camp documenting the atrocities of the army and the outright racism towards the Palestinians. I also posted videos showing how that “heroic” army systematically torched those Palestinian homes that remained standing, after stealing all their contents. The videos even showed the racist, anti-Palestinian slogans scrawled on the walls by the heroic army.

It was none other than Hizbullah who, early on, warned the army that attacking the camp and entering it was “a red line!” Then when the systematic slaughter and destruction proceeded, Hizbullah fell silent.

Don’t forget that the bulk of the rank and file foot soldiers in the Lebanese army are Shiites; they could have refused orders to attack innocent Palestinians if Hizbullah asked them to; just a thought.

At any rate your rationalization of what happened in Nahr El-Bared is simply that and it is wrong.
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 5:29 pm #

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if Hizbullah asked them to

could Hizbullah have issued those orders to the army at that moment?
In my humble opinion they could not.

The attack was ruthless and completely out of proportion. There was no reason to send the army in, with tanks and everything, for a problem that would have to be solved by the police.

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@Lucia: thanks for your kind words.

@Tony: you might be correct and I might be wrong. I am not expert at all and I did not closely follow the events in Nahr El-Bared. However, even if the Palestinians should not be blamed for having Fatah al-Islam next door, nor should Hezbollah for the crudeness of the Lebanese Army’s tactics under the pretext that many soldiers are Shia. There are plenty of non-Hezbollah Shia in Lebanon (Amal for one thing) and, as far as I know, Hezbollah soliders do not fight inside the Lebanese Army. You say that Hezbollah should not have praised the Army for its Hun-like tactics and I agree. But I suspect that the praise was more directed at the will to take on the Salafists than for using smart tactics in the process.

Look, there is, in my opinion, no worse ideology out there than Salafism and I do find it essential, crucial, to crush it wherever it shows up, be it Chechnia, Iraq, Afghanistan or Lebanon. I wish the Palestinians (or any other innocent bystanders) would not get slaughtered in the process, but I have to grant some degree of recognition to anyone trying to eradicate the Salafists anywhere.

My 2cts.
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Maybe, Tony, this botched operation by the army urged Hizbollah to push for the issuing of residence cards for the Palestinians, so that they could be somehow protected. They were “invisible”.


Lucia 09.28.08 – 5:46 pm #

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@Tony: one small comment about Baathism: you know, it reminds me of Communism in modern Russia. Its not really an ideology any more. It more of a psychopathological syndrome for a butch of have-beens which failed at all they attempted and are now angry and bitter at the entire world for not recognizing what they think of as “great achievements”. Baathists and Stalinists have a lot in common, at least in their mental makeup and bizarre behavior, at least in Russia, nobody takes them too seriously. I would not pay too much attention at their rather childish insults. Remember that first and foremost – they are *losers*; and, second, well, how shall I put it – they ain’t too bright. And third, they are also totally irrelevant and *they know that*. So they do the only thing they know how: spew hatred. Let them – it gives them meaning.

Cheers!
vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 5:57 pm #

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Lucia and VS,

When we start using terms such as “botched operation” and “lack of discipline” (on the part of the army), are we not using exactly the same propaganda and rationalization the US military used when it destroyed Fallujah?

No, the total destruction of the camp and the expulsion of the Palestinians in it were intentional and it was a decision taken at the highest level. There is a theory that the Salafis were brought in to justify the attack on the camp. Why was the camp destroyed? Many theories were floated including a story (by Franklin Lamb) that the US wanted to build a US air base in the area. At any rate, the US military flew in “emergency” military gear for the Lebanese army to use in destroying the camp. Does that tell us something?
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.28.08 – 6:04 pm #

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Tony, I had read Lamb’s article on the plans for the base. For me it was more than that, it was -like in Irak- “solving the refugees problem the zionist way”, i.e., ethnic cleanse, mass murder. Choose the term you see fits it best.

I used botched operation to put it a name, and certainly the term is not very accurate. Attempt at mass murder gets closer.

This is -again, in my view- a replay of the chasing of Palestinians that was done in Iraq. Detonate a car bombing in a crowded market, blame it on the Palestinians, parade two or three “suspects” on TV to pit the local population against them. And the chasing will be “approved”. Yesterday’s car-bombing in Syria follows the same pattern. Now it is being blamed on the Palestinians, go figure! But it does not benefit the Palestinians, I agree with Muallem on this one, that it only benefits the zios. So I tend to think that, since El-Assad refused the zionist condition to expel Meshaal and I.Jihad, the zios have orchestrated this from behind the curtains to arm-twist him. I don’t think it works. Not now.

The root problem is the Palestinian refugees are being chased. Zion has sent abbas to Lebanon to that they were given nationality and absorbed there, what Lebanon refused, stating they must return to Palestine. Zion does not want, at any rate, to assume this problem; and on the other hand is well aware it is an inalienable and *individual right that noone can sell out, as Abbas is willing to do, lest Israel loses its “jewish” character. But anything he signs, if he does it, is wet paper.

The Palestinian problem, in a special manner the refugees problem makes one’s heart bleed. And to make matters worse, they have been neglected for too long.

All Palestinians, anywhere, must be very careful, unless they have “papers”, residence or naturalization. They are being targeted.


Lucia 09.28.08 – 6:29 pm #

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@Tony: the total destruction of the camp and the expulsion of the Palestinians in it were intentional and it was a decision taken at the highest level.

Interesting. First, may I ask you what sources of facts you base this statement on?

Second, if presume that if you are correct in your analysis, then Hezbollah (who has the best intelligence capability in the entire Middle-East) must have known this too. In that case, why would they support what is, in your words, an anti-Palestinian bloodbath concealed under the guise of an anti-Salafist operation? Are you seriously claiming that Hezbollah is anti-Palestinian?! Are you saying that Hezbollah wanted to clear the camp to let a US base replace it?!
vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 6:36 pm #

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@Tony: “botched operation” can be used to conceal a deliberate attempt to massacre people.

However, there are real botched operations out there. And when I see the kind of “army” the so-called “Lebanese Army” is, I think “incompetence” long before I think “mission”. Actually, and this might shock you, I also mostly think “incompetence” rather than “mission” when I see the US Army’s dismal performance in Iraq. (Now, with the Israelis its mostly a combination of both).
vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 6:40 pm #

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VS, I think Tony does not mean Hizbulah when he mentions the highest level. Remember had left their seats, and Siniora ruled unconstitutionally, on behalf of the zio-cons. Hizbullah had, then, its tents set up in protest to form an equitable unity gov.
Lucia 09.28.08 – 6:41 pm #

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@Lucia:I think Tony does not mean Hizbulah when he mentions the highest level.

Yes, I understand that. But if he, Tony, knows about the real goal of the operation it is safe to say that so does Hezbollah. Hence, they praised what was an anti-Palestinian operation. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Nor does, by the way, the idea that the US would put a base in Lebanon, by the way.
vineyardsaker Homepage 09.28.08 – 6:44 pm #

NASRALLA to BARAK: BRING 9 DIVISIONS TO LEBANON NOT JUST 8 AND WE SHALL DESTROY THEM

‘We Must Arm Our Army, Even Through Black Market’
Mohamad Shmaysani

27/09/2008

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah on Friday told participants marking Al-Quds Day that Jerusalem and Palestine would soon be returned to their rightful owners. His eminence added that the very presence of Palestinian families within Jerusalem is a form of “resistance against the occupation.”The International Day of Al-Quds was first initiated by late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini after the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran. It has since been observed by Arabs and Muslims as a way of support for the Palestinians and emphasizing the importance of Quds to Muslims and Christians alike.

The event was attended by representatives of the Lebanese president and army commander, the parliament speaker, diplomats and other supporters. It was held in the Sayyed Al-Shuhada compound in Dahiyeh.

“Palestine, from the sea to the river, is the property of Arabs and Palestinians and no one has the right to give up even a single grain of earth or one stone, because every grain of the land is holy. The entire land must be returned to its rightful owners,” Sayyed Nasrallah said.

His eminence added that the event is to revive the cause, not to cry on the ruins of a “Nakba or a Naksa” (Catastrophe of 1948 and Setback of 1967). “It is an event to mark in our minds, hearts and conscience and an emphasis on determination and will.”

I FEEL SHAME THAT PALESTINIANS ARE DYING OF HUNGER
Sayyed Nasrallah urged Arabs and Muslims to keep in mind that the occupation of Palestine and the sanctities of Muslims and Christians was carried out by a group of racists and to consider what happened then as the biggest insult to the nation during the 20th century.
He also blamed elements in the Arab world for not acting against Israel. “Unfortunately, there were those among the Arabs who took advantage of the conflict within the Palestinian people to wash their hands off the Palestinian issue. If the Arab nation does what is needed, the liberation of Jerusalem will be possible, maybe even soon.”

“The Palestinian nation expects Arab nations to act in order to bring the blockade on the Gaza Strip to an end,” said Sayyed Nasrallah. “However,” he added, “only foreigners are sailing on the ships to Gaza. As a Lebanese Arab and Muslim I feel great shame that the Palestinians are dying of hunger,” he added.

WAY TO RETURN PALESTINE IS THROUGH DETERMINATION OF RESISTANCE
The Hezbollah Secretary General went on to blame Britain and its allies at the beginning of last century for planting this entity in the region. His eminence said that it wrong to believe that Israel is ruling the world and influencing the United States. “Israel is a functional entity founded by Britain and its allies in the region for certain purpose. The succeeding US administrations inherited this. Israel is a functional entity that is carrying out its mission in the framework of the US-Western colonial project that aims at dominating our nation and its riches. Israel is the spearhead in this project… We do not deny the influence of the Zionist lobby in the world, but Israel does not control the US. When we understand this, we have to understand also that our holy lands will not be liberated through begging the Americans, the West, those who founded Israel and have been using it to divide our region in the framework of a new Middle East. The Lebanese foiled this project in the July 2006 war. The way to return the lands and liberate the Palestinian people is through the will and the determination of the resistance and sacrifices of the peoples of this region who can impose their will on Israel,” Sayyed Nasrallah stressed.

His eminence added that Israel was the enemy of all Arab and Islamic states. “Israel is not only the enemy of the Palestinian people, but also of Lebanon, all the Arab people and all the Muslim nations. Israel is a cancerous tumor, as Imam Khomeini said.”
Today the time of the Zionists’ dreams has passed and the time of our dreams has begun. Today we don’t just dream, we implement our dreams. After the year 2000 and following the historic victory in southern Lebanon, the blessed al-Aqsa Intifada broke out. It was a historic golden opportunity to realize these hopes. Unfortunately, the entire Islamic nation did not stand by the Palestinians, who were forced to offer sacrifices.”

TWO THIRDS OF ISRAELIS FEEL INSECURE
Addressing Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s resignation, the Hezbollah Chief said, “Olmert, although he naturally should have stepped down following the Winograd Commission report, remained in his seat thanks to vigorous US involvement.”

“The post-war Israel is facing a leadership crisis. One of the most important developments was that Olmert admitted that the Greater Israel dream has come to an end, after (Likud leader Benjamin) Netanyahu admitted that Zionism was dying in Israel’s new generations.

“Out of all these things, the public’s lack of faith in this entity and its future is the most important. Polls released in Israel recently say two-thirds of the public believe they are living in an area where they feel insecure.”

Sayyed Nasrallah went on to say that the Zionists had come to Palestine with promises of the land of honey, security and protection. “They were promised to become the dominant, tyrannical, hegemonic and despotic state in the region…But today, they feel insecure and they lost faith in their country. There is no visible horizon for a settlement with the Palestinians and what happened after Annapolis was worse that before it. The resistance in Lebanon and Palestine has passed the stage of existential threat. Syria and Iran got past isolation conspiracies and proved their essential roles in the region and the world. The US project was blocked in many countries in the region. What happened in the Caucasus (Georgia and Russia) constituted a defeat to the US-Israeli axis. The dangerous financial crisis in the US proves that the world is heading towards a multi-polar political, military and economic system…We see in these developments doors of hope opening to a future where the interests of the peoples of this region are fulfilled,” the Hezbollah S.G. emphasized.

BRING 9 DIVISIONS TO LEBANON NOT JUST 8 AND WE SHALL DESTROY THEM
Sayyed Nasrallah reiterated that backing the resistance was essential because “the resistance is the only way to liberate Palestine and lands occupied by Israel.”
He warned Israel not to attack Lebanon. “I have always said that the way of the resistance is not a classic war. We are ready to help the resistance of the Palestinian people. But those who attack Lebanon – we shall face them.”

“(Defense Minister) Ehud Barak spoke in the past about five divisions which would invade Lebanon, and today he talks about eight. Okay, he may have made new calculations. But you should know that your eight divisions will be destroyed on our territory by our fighters. If you (Barak) ask me I would tell you to send nine divisions. Sending eight division is better than sending five. I understand that if Israel made this mistake, it will lead to its end. Imagine five destroyed divisions. Israel will no longer have an army there will be no state left. Then what would be the case if Israel sends eight divisions? The enemy and the friend know these things are promises from the Arab victory periods and are not taken from the times of past defeats,” the leader of the resistance firmly said.

WE MUST ARM LEBANON ARMY EVEN THROUGH BLACK MARKET
Sayyed Nasrallah stressed that Lebanon should arm its army even “by obtaining arms from the black market as the resistance does.”
“Following the reports in Lebanon that Israel objects to the US equipping the Lebanese army with a number of arm systems, can we maintain the sovereignty of Lebanon and its people this way? Must we really wait for permission from the US and Israel to equip our national army and give it all it needs to carry out its secret missions? This is unthinkable. As for the resistance, they (weapons) were angered by it because it did not need anyone’s permission to arm itself, and thus this weapon is one of the reasons for power. If we wait for the United State’s permission, we might receive trucks, weak armored personnel carriers, etc, but we will never get weapons which will allow us to face the Zionist enemy. A national force is not built through an external entity, but through national determination. We need the unity government to make a brave decision that we do not need anyone’s permission and we will equip our army. We will establish a special cabinet of ministers, and in this framework the state will purchase weapons, even in the black market, as the resistance does.

WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT RECONCILIATION
He also said on Friday that Hezbollah is ready for whatever it takes to implement peace and stability in Beirut, but ruled out new alliances with the anti-Syrian majority. “We are ready to do whatever it takes to reassure all the Lebanese and especially the citizens of Beirut,” his eminence stressed, adding “we are serious and devoted to the reconciliation.”

“We are serious, real, and cautious in all reconciliations that aim to create a positive atmosphere. Details are not important. We are ready to comfort all Lebanese, especially in Beirut. Reconciliation does not mean new political alliances. We assure this and so do they. Their aim is to create a positive atmosphere and pave the way to the democratic 2009 parliamentary elections, which will be the deciding factor. We have always sought these elections. People will make their choices in these elections,” Sayyed Nasrallah said.

He added that if the opposition wins a majority in the 2009 elections, “Hezbollah will be committed to a national unity cabinet that makes others partners in the decision making process. We do not want to deny anyone a voice, we must learn from the past. Lebanon cannot be ruled on a majority/minority principle, this principle is not suitable to resolve issues.”

LET THE COUNTRY TAKE A CHANCE TO RELAX AND REVISE MATTERS
The Hezbollah chief spoke of national unity and easing down tension in Lebanon. “National force cannot be built from the outside; it can only come from national will. We have always said we were cautious in preserving peace and stability. We have always talked of national unity and demanded dialogue. Let the tense political language stop for a while. Let this country take a chance to relax, to rethink and revise matters. An electoral law will be adopted and elections will occur on time.”

NOT SUFFICIENT TO OPPOSE NATURALIZATION OF PALESTINIANS
Sayyed Nasrallah said that it is not sufficient to oppose naturalization of the Palestinians in Lebanon. “We had made a proposal to amend the constitution so that a decision to normalize Palestinians can only be adopted unanimously in parliament. It was refused. Today the other bloc has made the same proposal, this is very good. We support any amendment of the constitution that forbids naturalization, which is an American-Israeli project financed by the Arabs.
We must make every effort, at every level, to preserve the Palestinian’s right to return to their country. It is Lebanon’s responsibility is to improve the situation in the refugee camps. I hail the wise and correct Palestinian decision in Lebanon to remain neutral toward Lebanese divisions and disputes.

موقع قناة المنار – محمد عبد الله /
اكد امين عام حزب الله السيد حسن نصرالله ان يوم القدس العالمي وبعد 30 عاماً على اعلان الامام الخميني لهذا اليوم ما
زال فاعلاً وقوياً ببركة التأييد الدائم لخليفة الامام ومواصل دربه الامام السيد علي الخامنائي. واشار السيد نصر الله انه وبفعل التزام وحب وإيمان شعوبنا بالقدس وفلسطين، فان يوم القدس هذا منذ بداية الإعلان كان دائما يهدف للتأكيد على جملة من المعاني تترسخ وتتركز مع مضي النسين.وحمد سماحته الله على توفيقه جيلنا ليشاهد بأم العين مساوء وجوه الصهاينة على وجوه المقاومين في فلسطين ولبنان.
كلام الامين العام لحزب الله جاء في كلمته التي القاها في المهرجان الجماهيري الذي اقامه حزب الله بمناسبة يوم القدس العالمي في مجمع سيد الشهداء في الرويس بضاحية بيروت الجنوبية وذلك بحضور حشد كبير من الشخصيات السياسية والعسكرية والدينة والفعاليات الشعبية وممثل رئيس الجمهورية اللبنانية ورئيس المجلس النيابي وممثل رئيس التيار الوطني الحر العماد ميشال عون.
وقد اوضح سماحته في كلمته أن الهدف الاساسي ليوم القدس هو أحياء لهذه الذكرى لأنها تعرضت للنسيان. وقال: “هناك مسؤولية تاريخية على الامة تجاه القدس وفلسطين وشعب فلسطين، ومن المعاني في هذا اليوم أن فلسطين من البحر والنهر هي ملك للعرب والفلسطينيين ولا يملك أحد تفويضاً للتخلي عن حبة تراب ولا عن حائط او حجر لأن كل ما فيها مقدس. وهذه الأرض يجب أن تعود الى أصحابها كاملة وغير منقوصة، وهناك ايضا تصحيح مفهوم الاشتباه القائل أن اسرائيل تحكم العالم أو ان اسرائيل تحكم الولايات المتحدة، هناك تأثير للوبي الصهيوني، ولكن الفهم الصحيح هو أن اسرائيل كيان وظيفي أوجدته بريطانيا وحلفائها لأهداف وأكملته أميركا، وهو يؤدي مهمة للمشروع الأميركي والغربي للسيطرة على بلادنا، واسرائيل تؤدي رأس الحربة في هذا المشروع، وتحرير أرضنا لا يتم من خلال التوسل للأميركيين ولا الغربيين، وانما طريق استعادة الأرض والمقدسات يأتي من خلال ارادة وعزم ومقاومة وتضحيات شعوب هذه المنطقة التي تستطيع ان تفرض نفسها على هذا الكيان الوظيفي”. واعتبر الامين العام لحزب الله ان من جملة المعاني التي يجب التأكيد عليه في يوم القدس هو التأكيد على ان إسرائيل هي عدوة الشعوب العربية والإسلامية كلها، وأن إسرائيل هي غدة سراطانية طبعها وماهيتها الفتئ بمن حولها، موضحاً ان هذا الإحساس بهذه الثقافة يجب أن يبقى حاضراً.
وشدد السيد نصر الله على التأكيد على ان الطريق الوحيد لاستعادة الارض والمقدسات هو المقاومة معتبراً انه اليوم انتهى زمن أحلام الصهاينة وأبتداء زمن تحقيق أحلامنا. الامين العام لحزب الله اعتبر انه وبعد العام الفين وبعد الانتصار في الجنوب اللبناني انطلقت إنتفاضة الأقصى وكانت فرصة ذهبية لتحقيق هذه الآمال، لكنه اوضح قائلاً: “لكن وللأسف، لم تقف الأمة بالشكل المناسب إلى جانب فلسطين مع العلم ان هذا الشعب أبلى بلاء حسنا، اليوم لم تضع بعد هذه الفرصة، الشعب الفلسطيني ما زال في قلب المحنة، في كل يوم يقتل الفلسطينيون وغزة في الحصار، والشعب الفلسطيني لم تسقط بندقيته، اليوم هذا الشعب يصر على المقاومة والتحدي وعدم التنازل عن حقوقه، وإن اختلف على أشياء إلا أنه جمع على عدم التخلي عن القدس وهذا موقف يجب أن تتحمل الامة مسؤوليته”. واكد السيد نصر الله انه لم يطلب أحد من الحكومات العربية أن ترسل جيوشها لتحارب إسرائيل ولم نطلب منهم دعمنا في تموز 2006.
واوضح السيد نصر الله ان العائلات الفلسطينية العربية في القدس الشرقية تتعرض لأبشع أنواع التهجير بحجج مختلفة، داعياً لدعم هذه العائلات لتبقى في القدس، لأن بقاءها في القدس هو مقاومة، وإن وجودها في القدس، ونومها وبقاءها وأكلها وهدوؤها هو مقاومة، بل من أشرف أنواع المقاومة الذي يجب أن يقدم له الدعم ومطالباً العرب الذين يملكون الدولارات قادرون على دعم هذه العائلات. وتحدث السيد نصر الله عن الضفة الغربية التي تشهد حالات مماثلة، وان قطاع غزة يحاصر وما زال تحت الحصار ويمكن أن يمد له يد العون، مشيراً الى ان مسؤولية الأمة هو فك الحصار عن غزة ويمكن القيام بهذا، معتبراً ان الأمر بحاجة فقط للإرادة.
وقال السيد نصرالله: “الشعب الفلسطيني يتطلع الى أمته لتنزع عنه الحصار فلا يجد الا بعض الاجانب، فأشعر بخجل شديد من جراء ذلك لأن أحد من الأمة لم يبادر الى ما فعلوه هؤلاء. هذا جزء من المسؤولية، الدعم الإعلامي والسياسي هي من واجبات الامة، ومن أهم الواجبات ان تعمل الأمة على إجراء مصالحة بين الفلسطينيين، وللأسف بعض العرب استفاد من هذا الامر لنفض يديه من القضية الفلسطينية، ما هكذا تكون العروبة ولا الشهامة ولا الإسلام”.
واكد الامين العام لحزب الله انه وبالنظر الى المعطيات فان تحقيق هدف إستعادة القدس وفلسطين لم يعد بعيداً عنا مشيراً الى ان يوم القدس يأتي متزامنا هذا العام مع مجموعة هامة من التطورات: منها سقوط كبار قادة حرب تموز، اولمرت، مع العلم انه كان من المفترض ان يسقط بعد تقرير فينوغراد، ولكن خطط له أن يسقط في هذا التوقيت.
وتابع : “من جملة التطورات ان إسرائيل بعد تموز 2006 تعيش أزمة زعامة، واعتراف أولمرت بانتهاء حلم إسرائيل الكبرى وكان قد سبقه نتنياهو من عامين، بالإضافة إلى التخبط الإسرائيلي بمسألة النووي الإيراني، وأزمة الثقة بين شعب هذا الكيان ومؤسساته، إستطلاعات الرأي التي نشرت أظهرت ان ثلثي الشعب الإسرائيلي يعتبرون أنهم يعشون في أرض قذرة لانهم لا يعيشون فيها بأمان”. وقال الامين العام لحزب الله: “الصهاينة جاؤوا الى فلسطين على اساس ان يكونوا آمنين وفي أرض تدر لهم اللبن والعسل، أما اليوم بعد المقاومة أن المنطقة لم تعد تلك المنطقة الموعودة التي جاءوا على أساسها.
ومن جملة هذه التطورات، إنسداد افق أي تسوية سياسية مع الفلسطينيين وما جرى ما بعد أنابوليس كان أسوأ مما قبله، وعلى مستوى المنطقة، من التطورات المهمة تجاوز المقاومة في لبنان وفي فلسطين مرحلة الخطر الوجودي، لا يوجد من يمكنه ان يهدد هذا الوجود، تجاوز دول الممانعة مؤامرات العزل وإثبات حضور هذه الدول في المنطقة. ومن جملة التطورات تعثر المشروع الأميركي على مستوى المنطقة وفي أكثر من بلد هذه العوامل تزيد من قدرة تأثير دول المنطقة على الاحداث، أما دوليا فهزيمة جورجيا والأزمة المالية التي تعاني منها أميركا من الواضح أن العالم يسير نحو حكم متعدد الأقطاب وهذه التطورات كلها تلعب لصالح المنطقة.
ان هذه التحولات على مستوى إسرائيل والمنطقة والعالم نرى فيها فتحاً للكثير من أبواب الحل نحو مستقبل تتحقق فيه مصالح هذه المنطقة وتبتعد فيه عن سياسيات الهيمنة التي تمارسها أميركا وتوظف فيها إسرائيل. ان المفروض في هذه المرحلة المزيد من الصمود في مواقعنا لأن ما نحن مقبلون عليه يبشر بالمزيد من الانتصارات انشاء الله”.
وحول الموضوع اللبناني قال سماحته: “أتحدث في الموضوع اللبناني عن شقين، شق فلسطيني وشق لبناني، في الشق الفلسطيني من مسؤولية لبنان النضال ومواصلة العمل إلى جانب الفلسطينيين لإنجاز حق العودة، لا يجب فقط أن نرفض التوطين بل يجب المساهمة في إنجاز حق العودة للاجئين الفلسطينيين. لبنان معني برفض قاطع للتوطين وكان فريقنا السياسي قد طرح أمراً على الحوار الاول تم رفضه من الاخرين. شاهدنا قبل مدة في وسائل الإعلام ان الفريق الآخر تقدموا بطلب تعديل دستوري لتحصين الموقف اللبناني في مواجهة خطر التوطين الذي أعرف وتعرفون أنه مشروع اميركي صهيوني والتمويل العربي جاهز لذلك، مع الإشارة أننا في الحوار الماضي كنا قد عرضنا سابقاً لتعديل الدستور. الاسرائيلي موجود بلبنان بأشكال وألوان متعددة ومن واجب الفلسطينيين واللبنانيين التصدي للمشروع الاسرائيلي في لبنان”. ونوه الامين العام لحزب الله بموقف الفصائل الفلسطينية في لبنان التي أجمعت على الحياد فيما يتعلق بالمسائل اللبنانية”.
وفي الشق اللبناني قال الامين العام لحزب الله: “نحن دائماً ما نتطلع إليه في لبنان، أنا أقولها في الخطابات الداخلية، نطمح لأن يكون بلدنا قوياً قادراً سليماً معافاً آمنا، ونحن نقول لإخواننا وأخواتنا أننا لا نريد السيطرة على لبنان ولا الإمساك بالسلطة بل نؤمن ان مصلحتنا في لبنان أن نكون سوياً ونعمل سوياً وأن نبني سوياً وأن نواجه التحديات سوياً، طبعا إذا تخلى أحد عن مواجهة إسرائيل فهذا لا يعني أننا سنتخلى أيضاً ولكن هذا ما نطمح إليه. نحن قاومنا وقاتلنا العدو وما زلنا في هذا الموقع وذهبنا الى الحوار الوطني ليكون هناك تلاقي لبناني لبناء قوة لبنان الحقيقية،
واليوم بعد الانباء الصحفية عن ممانعة اسرائيلية للأميركيين لتزويد الجيش ببعض انواع الاسلحة، هل يمكن أن نبني جيش لبناني قادر ويدافع عن لبنان بهذه الطريقة؟ في مسألة المقاومة، هنا شكلت لهم المقاومة الإزعاج لأنها لا تطلب إذناً من أحد للحصول على السلاح ولأنها تخفي سلاحها لأن إخفاءه هو من أسباب القوة، وهي لا تخشى أحداً عندما تقوم بواجبها. هل يجوز ان ننتظر اذن من اسرائيل واميركا لكي نسلح جيشنا الوطني، كلا لن ننتظر اذن من احد بل قمنا نحن بالمقاومة بذلك دون انتظار احد. نحن على مستوى حكومة الوحدة بحاجة الى قرار شجاع يقول نحن في لبنان نريد أن نسلح ونجهز جيشنا ليتمكن من الدفاع عن لبنان ولسنا بحاجة الى اذن من احد ونشكل فريقاً وزارياً ليؤمن السلاح ومن المشروع للدولة أن تشتري السلاح للجيش حتى من السوق السوداء كما تفعل المقاومة. إذا كنا نريد ان ننتظر رايس لتأذن لنا بالحصول على الاسلحة فلن نحصل إلا على ملالات ضعيفة ولكن لن نتمكن من أن يحصل جيشنا على القدرة لمواجهة الخارج. ان القوة والقدرة الوطنية لا تبنى بإذن من أحد بل من صميم الشعب وقوته.
أنطلاقنا من ذلك نحن نبحث في الحوار عن التلاقي ونقول لاصحاب المقالات لا تبحثوا في قاعدتنا عن أمر تريدونها للفتنة. دائما كنا نتحدث عن الوحدة الوطنية واعتصمنا لأجل حكومة وحدة وطنية وكنا نطالب بالتكاتف والتلاقي، حتى بعد حرب تموز دعوت لأن نحمي لبنان سوياً، القاعدة الشعبية التي تسمع هذا الخطاب عندما تشاهد الناس تتلاقى ستعتبر أن ما يجري منسجم مع طموحاتها”. السيد حسن نصرالله اكد ان المصالحة لا يمكن ان تكون بقرار طرف واحد بل هي قرار طرفين، وقال : “نحن في المصالحات جديون وحريصون وحاضرون لكل ما يعزز هذا المناخ الايجابي في البلد وطمأنة الناس في كل المناطق اللبنانية وخصوصاً في عاصمتنا العزيزة بيروت وأهلها الكرام”. وتابع الامين العام لحزب الله قائلاً: “بالتأكيد، عندما نتحدث عن مصالحات لا نتحدث عن تحالفات، هم يؤكدون ذلك ونحن أيضاً، نحن إلى جانب حلفائنا الذين نحفظ لهم الود والإلتزام، المصالحات تهدف لإيجاد مناخ إيجابي للتهدئة ووقف مسلسل التوتير والأجواء المذهبية، وإيجاد مناخات سليمة للذهاب إلى منافسة سلمية في الإنتخابات المقبلة.
نحن نتصالح ونحن نقبل أن الحكم هو الانتخابات المقبلة وخطابنا كان منذ الاعتصام كان للرجوع الى الناس الذين نحترم إختيارهم. معنيون جميعاً لأن نؤمن المناخ الإيجابي لمنافسة سياسية شريفة تؤدي إلى إنتخابات نيابية تنتج سلطة جديدة، لست ممن يبدل في الوعد، أقول لكم من الآن، إذا حصلت المعارضة على الغالبية، فحزب الله سيؤكد دعمه لحكومة لوحدة الوطنية يحضر فيها الفريق الآخر للمشاركة في حكم البلد. نحن لا نتطلع الى انتخابات جديدة لإلغاء أحد لان لبنان بلد خاص ولا يحكم بأقلية وأكثرية. لا يمكن معالجة الازمات الا بذهنية تعاون وتعاضد وتكافل وطني بين جميع القوى التي تمثل الشرائح المختلفة، وفي المدى المنتظور
هذه هي تركيبة بلدنا، وليس علينا ان نذهب الى خيارات مثالية تعمق الازمة، بل نتصرف بواقعية نحتكم الى الانتخابات وننتج اقلية واكثرية ولكن لبنان لن تعالج ازماته بهذه العقلية. اقول ما أنجز من مصالحات وما عقد من لقاءت وما سيعقد أيضاً هي تعزز هذا المناخ عسى ان تأخذ القوى السياسية فرصة والحكومة فرصة لتفرغ لبعض الأزمات خصوصاً مع قدوم الشتاء والعام الدراسي، والفقر هي الصفة التي تجمع أكثر من ثلثي اللبنانيين، لذلك يجب معرفة كيفية مواجهة المشاكل الاجتماعية، وفي ظل حكومة الوحدة، ومجلس نيابي، والحوار الوطني، فلنأخذ فرصة في هذا البلد لنبذل جهوداً إيجابية، والوضع السياسي سيوضع على السكة السليمة بإقرار قانون إنتخاب خلال أيام وباللجوء إلى الإنتخابات في موعدها المحدد. وقال الامين العام لحزب الله: “عندما نتحدث عن الشق اللبناني تبقى عيوننا مشدودة الى الجنوب الى تلالنا وجبالنا التي نشتم منها عبق فلسطين لنؤكد في يوم القدس أننا هنا في المقاومة والى جانب الجيش اللبناني لن نغفل عن أي تحدي هناك اياً تكن ازمات الداخل وانشغالاته”.
وتحدث السيد نصر الله عن التهديدات الاسرائيلية وقال: “اليوم سمعنا من بعض المحللين الإسرائيليين نقلا عن رئيس اركان الجيش الإسرائيلي أنه لا يتوقع حرباً مع لبنان في هاذين العامين، ما السر؟ فمنذ أيام كانوا جميعهم يهددونا، أنا كنت أقول أن المقاومة ليس مشروعها مشروع حرب، حتى في موضوع تحرير فلسطين، فواجبنا كلبنانيين دعم هذا الموضوع، مشروعنا ليس حرب كلاسيكية، عندما يعتدى على لبنان لن تقف المقاومة مكتوفة الأيدي.
التعديل الاخير لايهود باراك بانه يعمل على قاعدة 8 فرق نقول أن فرقك الثماني هذه ستدمر عند جبالنا وقرانا وعند أقدام مجاهدينا. أقول له بالعكس، الكلام عن 8 فرق أفضل من الحديث عن 5 فرق، فإذا ارتكبت إسرائيل هذه الخطيئة فهذا يؤدي إلى انهيارها، إذا دمرت 5 فرق، فماذا بقي من الجيش الإسرائيلي من معنويات؟ إذا قال لي: أحضر 5 أو 8، أقول له أحضر 9!
باراك يعرف والصديق يعرف أن هذا الكلام ليس خطابات من ايام الهزيمة العربية بل هو وعود والتزامات من ايام النصر العربي، وفيما كان الناس مشغولين بالأزمة الداخلية كان هناك رجال في المقاومة لا ينامون الليل منذ انتهاء حرب تموز وعلى رأسهم الشهيد عماد مغنية، وما زالوا حتى اليوم يعملون لتحقيق الحلم”.وختم الامين العام لحزب الله بالقول: “في يوم القدس، عندما نمتلك العزم والإرادة نمتلك القوة والقدرة، وعندما نصبح أقوياء في مكان لا يبقى فيه إلا القوي، تعود إلينا مقدساتنا، هكذا ننظر إلى القدس ونحن اليوم أقرب من أي زمن مضى إلى كنيسة القيامة والمسجد الأقصى ، سيكون جيلنا هذا هو الذي سيشهد العودة الى قدسنا الحبيب وارضنا في فلسطين”.
وسنكون مع نص كلمة الامين العام لحزب الله كاملة فور جهوزها …

 

all innocents are equal……but the bombers are not !!

A Bomb in Islamabad kills 56 innocent-souls.

A fortnight before , another bombing in Pakistan
has killed another 96 innocent-souls.

Can we assume that all innocents are equal ??
While assuming that all bombers are criminals ??

But let us not forget that there are Criminal-actions
and Criminal-reactions. …….

The reaction blames the action
while the innocents do die unaware whether the action killed them
or the consequent-reaction .

One fact is undeniable and relevant:
those who died in the Marriott Hotel were probably or presumably
richer than those 96 who died in the poor Tribal Areas of Pakistan.

While if there were any arms-dealers among those victims
one would logically find them in that 5 Stars Hotel and not
among the poor farmers in East-Pakistan- Provinces.
The same goes for the dealers in nuclear technologies ,
they love 5 stars Hotels…… .

In the eyes of God and of humanity ,
all living and all dead are equals
but there are rich-dead and also poor-dead.

My condolences to both….
but my sympathy declines a bit to one side…..

Raja Chemayel
equality brings justice brings peace
21St of September 2008

AL-Quds…Allah’s Endowment


26/09/2008

The International Day of Al-Quds is an initiative started by Iranian revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Quds Day is held annually on the last Friday of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan and calls for Jerusalem to be returned to the Palestinians.
Friday night, Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah will mark the event with a televised speech in the Sayyed Al-Shuhada complex in Dahyieh (Beirut’s southern suburb). There will not be a weapons-free military parade due to the delicate security situation in the country. Hezbollah’s media activities unit chose “Al-Quds…Allah’s Endowment” as a slogan for this years event.
Comment:
The Palestinian Thug shall not like the TITLE: Allah’s Endowment

Hezbollah and the Palestinians

Hezbollah and the Palestinians

A Hezbollah fighter salutes the coffins containing the remains of Hezbollah and Palestinian fighters at the Naqoura border point with Israel July 16, 2008. (Photo: Reuters)

By Franklin Lamb – Beirut

“The response to the massacre at Sabra-Shatila was for the resistance to become active in Lebanon. If the Lebanese people had given up on the resistance, they too would have been complicit in the massacres of Qana and Sabra and Shatila.” – Hasan Nassallah June 4, 2002

“We renew our pledge to Jerusalem, to the Palestinians, and to the cause and Imam of Jerusalem; their city will forever remain in our souls, and will continue to be our cause, our battle, and our ultimate objective.” – Hasan Nassallah October 28, 2005

The fundamental consequences of the 1982 Massacre at Sabra-Shatila and the founding of Hezbollah are two seismic events from the same time and place which some argue are locked in an embrace that will return Palestine to the Palestinians.

In fewer than 45 minutes following the explosion in Islamabad at the 315-room Marriott Hotel during the Ramadan Iftar mealtime, Saturday, Hezbollah security units nearly invisibly secured the area of the 162-room Beirut Marriott Hotel. One of the embassies they secured was that of Palestine, which opened last year.

The security precautions were less out of love for the Bush administration, or love for the Zionist-owned hotel chain, than the fact that the Marriott is within one of Hezbollah’s densely populated base areas. Dahiyeh, which includes several southern Beirut neighborhoods, often erroneously referred to as “suburbs”, is less than a mile from the Palestinian refugee area known as Sabra-Shatila.

Hezbollah works regularly to intercept elements openly boasting of or secretly planning on attacking its neighborhoods. Some being watched and infiltrated are Al Qaida inspired Sunni Salafist cells, who consider Shia Hezbollah more their enemy than they do the US or Israeli governments. Contrary to Robert Fisk’s recent reports, these groups are indeed growing in Lebanon and inside the Palestinian Camps, particularly Ain el Helwe, Bedawi. They are trying to launch in the so far peaceful camps near Tyre. This observer would agree with Fisk that it will not be easy for Al Qaida to find enough supporters and adherents of the Salafi-Jihadi ideology to challenge the strength of Hezbollah’s well-organized partisans. Yet, no fewer than 11 Al Qaida-inspired groups, eager to destabilize Lebanon, and sometimes related to US-Israel projects, have been organizing according to Palestinian Popular Committee Representatives inside the Camps. Some of their goals are being telegraphed by the rising campaign of threats coming from their sometime-sponsors in Tel Aviv and Washington.

The Angry Bear Returns to the Levant
When the rest of the story is able to be told concerning what really was happening during the late April and early May events in West Beirut, the facts will support a very different conclusion than the narrative offered by the Welch Club. Researchers expect to elucidate contents of ten and one half hours of taped conversations between Washington and its Lebanese surrogates. Conversations are referred to during a meeting between Hezbollah’s number two, Sheifk Naim Qassim, and a former US Ambassador with his American delegation during a July 2008 dialogue in Dahiyeh. A full report of the May events will also document details of what is known by many here, that every incoming and outgoing communication at the US Embassy is carefully monitored, analyzed and contemplated. The same with Israeli Sunday Cabinet meetings.
This week the Israeli Army’s Information Security Chief, Colonel Ram Dor, complained in the Israeli newspaper, Yediot Ahronot (Latest News) that Russia is relaying intelligence information to Hezbollah. Dor said Russian Navy spy ships and Russian personnel serving at monitoring stations on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights carry out intercept and hacking missions and relay Israeli secrets to Hezbollah.

“My evaluation is that such facilities can cover most of Israel’s territory,” Dor said.
The US intelligence unit in the American Embassy in Beirut also blames the hacking and sharing of its ‘most secured communications’ on the Russians while others claim its tit-for-tat for what the Mossad and CIA did early last year in Georgia.

US Embassy Internet security experts are unclear to what extent the Russian military is directly responsible for “communication compromises,” but they claim that the traffic patterns and servers used in the operation are definitely coming out of Russia and result from increased Russian activity in the Middle East.

Some in Beirut speculate that this explains why the meticulously planned US/Israeli “May Surprise” turned out to be a ”May Surprise” for its sponsors and their local teammates, who were dropped like a bad habit when the project imploded.

To counter this problem, the US Defense Intelligence Agency’s newly created Defense Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence Center is authorized for the first time to carry out “strategic offensive counterintelligence operations” in Lebanon and against any group anywhere which the Bush administration considers “terrorist,” according to Mike Pick of the DEA, who will direct the program.

Covert offensive operations will be carried out in Lebanon and abroad against people known or suspected to be connected to foreign intelligence or international terrorist activities, according to Toby Sullivan, Director of Counterintelligence for James R. Clapper, Jr., the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.

According to Walter Pincus, who covers counterintelligence for the Washington Post, these sensitive, clandestine operations are “tightly controlled departmental activities run by a small group of specially selected people” within the Defense Department. The new unit is designed to thwart what groups like Hezbollah might be trying to do to us and to learn more about what they’re trying to get from us,” Sullivan said. In the case of “terrorists,” the object would be to identify people who might be “trying to do harm, collect information about us, and keep them from doing that. So far we don’t know if Hezbollah is trying to do anything to us but we will watch them,” he stated.

“You stop, we stop,” is the Putin offer to the next US administration, according to Congressional staff sources on the US Senate Intelligence Committee. Many in power in Moscow also consider the Bush administration a “terrorist cabal” and are awaiting the November election results, hoping Obama wins.

The Student Laptops and the KKK Kid
Hours before the Marriott was attacked in Pakistan, Fairouz Husseini sat with her girlfriends in the courtyard outside Haifa Middle School across the road from Shatila Refugee Camp, which is administered by UNWRA in Bir Hassan. Fairouz and her friends were giddy two days after receiving laptops at the 26th Anniversary of the Sabra-Shatila Massacre Memorial.
“I love it! I can’t believe it’s mine to keep!”, Fairouz exclaimed as she protectively dusted off the pale green cover of her new XO laptop, and recorded an interview with the screen sized video and built-in camera. The XO laptop is part of an advanced teaching tool developed at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology that some believe can revolutionize education in developing countries.

“That American man told us that if we used it properly it would open the doors to the Great Library of Alexandria for us and we can learn as much as any student at the best schools anywhere in the World!” she added.

Amal, a very loquacious 13 year old friend of Fairouz chimed in, “We are making a laptop club at our school. We call it: Learn for our Return! Is that a good name? What do you think? Our friend Ahmad says it’s a silly idea. Anyway, Ahmad does not behave properly and is sort of wild. He is what we call a KKK kid – Kalashnikov, Kassem and Katyusha. Anyhow, most students in the camps are peaceful and we want to rebuild our country when we go back and we need lots of knowledge to do it!”

Fairouz and her Ramadan-fasting pals were already out of school for the day even though it was not yet noon. Lebanon’s camp Palestinians are severely challenged by a shortened school day due to overcrowding. On average around there are 35, but sometimes there are as many as 50 students per class, and because UNWRA must run two shifts daily. Student and teacher absenteeism is high, standards are low, text books insufficient, infrastructure poor, and dropout rates increasing.

Of the 59 Palestinian camps in the Levant (Syria, Jordan, Palestine and Lebanon) only the camp schools in Gaza are as bad, indeed worse, as those in Lebanon.

Gaza Director of the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) John Ging reports that up to 60 percent of Gazan children at UNRWA schools had failed their math exams last year, while 40 percent failed their Arabic exams at the beginning of the year.

UNRWA provides schooling for Palestinian refugee children from grade 1 through 9, but offers limited secondary education and, as in Lebanon, these schools are forced to operate double shifts due to overcrowding. ”Many children come to school hungry and unable to concentrate,” according to Ging.

Haifa Fahmi al-Agha, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) Education Ministry’s Director General in the Gaza Strip, has documented that failure rates at schools in Gaza were deliberately lowered the past few years to cope with overcrowded classrooms, too few schools and limited educational funds. The same “lowering of the bar” trend is creeping into Palestinian schools in Lebanon.

Shatila Camp, as well as its sister, Burj al Baraneh, is located in Ghouberi Municipality, whose Council is now controlled by Hezbollah, whose party members won all 21 Council seats in both the 1998 and 2004 elections. Hezbollah security protects the whole area around Shatila Camp, and Haifa and other Palestinian Schools with their Shia, Sunni and Christian students. The Sabra-Shatila area is an increasingly close-knit area bringing together the Sunni Palestinians and the Shia Hezbollah.

More than 90% of Lebanon’s Palestinian students interviewed recently, in an admittedly unscientific poll, appear to believe that Hezbollah holds out their best hope to return to Palestine, and insist their parents would vote for Hezbollah in next year’s critical election if Palestinians were allowed to vote in Lebanon.

Before leaving for home, Fairouz introduced this observer to her lovely mother, Nour. Nour is a community organizer who had come to collect her daughter. She elaborated on why the Sunni and partially secular Palestinian community of Bir Hasan (where the first killers assembled 26 years ago before being sent into the Camp) have come to support the Shia Party of God despite a sometimes troubled past relationship.

The Non-ID Issue and Palestinian Gratitude

Besides shared values regarding education, Hezbollah supports the project that is now finally happening to give Palestinians identification cards for the first time.

“This is so important to our people in Lebanon. Actually Hezbollah worked quietly with Prime Minister Siniora’s people to achieve this much needed progress,” the community organizer explained. “They do a lot for us but they don’t announce it to the public so much.”

Many Palestinians credit pressure and dialogue from Hezbollah with the announcement last month that the government of Lebanon will finally issue temporary identification cards to perhaps as many as 5000 Palestinian families (around 20,000 individuals) who have no documents and who habitually hide from the authorities or risk imprisonment.

PM Fouad Siniora, in bed with the Bush Administration, wins kudos for his work on this issue. Siniora appears to reject the Bush/Cheney and Israeli intense antipathy toward Resistance supporting Palestinians.

The Lebanese authorities have thus agreed after 40 years to give temporary ID cards to “non-ID” Palestinian refugees. Palestinians without any ID documents are subject to more capricious treatment by authorities than those holding UNWRA ID or Ration Cards or NR (”Non Registered”) cards.

Most non-ID Palestinians are either former “Fedayeen” or descendants of the Palestinian fighters who came to Lebanon in the 1970s after being driven from Jordan during the “Black September” conflict with the Jordanian monarchy.

To qualify for the new IDs these individuals need to get a residence notice from a Mukhtar and submit it to the Lebanese General Security. The Non-ID card will help settle the legal status of thousands of Palestinians living in Lebanon and is about the only good news for the Palestinians here since their PLO protectors left Beirut in 1982, when the camp’s steep descent into misery accelerated. Lebanon’s new PLO “Embassy,” which was allowed to open in May of 2006, has already received 2,600 names of applicants.

Like all Palestinians, the new ID-holders will still not be allowed to work in professional vocations or to own property, but at least their marriages will be legally registered and, theoretically, they can no longer be rounded up by the authorities at whim.

Sidon Mukhtar Mohammad Baasiri explained that dozens of Palestinians were flocking into his office on a daily basis seeking IDs. “I have hundreds of applications from Palestinians who want to get a residence notice as a starting point toward getting an ID,” Mukhtar Bassiri noted.
Over the past two years, more than 350 non-ID refugees had been arrested in Sidon alone and more than 200 students were denied the right to access its schools and universities. To its everlasting credit, UNRWA often allows non-ID children to “sneak” into its schools – but they cannot pass their examinations at age 18 and gain qualifications because that requires legal papers. As reported by Daily Star’s Fayez Najjar, an unregistered Palestinian father of 14 children from Ein el Helwe Camp explained that his sons had been arrested for lack of ID several times as they stepped outside the autonomous security system of Palestinian-controlled camps. Hezbollah is credited with helping advance this project.

Fatima Khalife’s Quadruplets and Hasan Nasrallah
This is another example of Hezbollah “good neighborliness” mentioned by Hajjah Nour, which this observer had actually learned about earlier while conducting research in Mar Elias Camp in Beirut.

Many foreigners may not be familiar with the 6000-resident Mar Elias Palestinian Refugee Camp located just to the Northwest of Sabra and Shatila. It is small, one of the original camps set up in 1948. It is heavily made up by Christians from Nazarath and surrounded by Gulf-funded high rise construction projects. Salivating investors eye its boundaries and prime location near the sandy beach of Ramlet al Baida and Hamra.

Last month, this observer, en route to an appointment inside the Camp, was negotiating the sharp turns of alleys so narrow and dark that they have likely never been warmed by direct sunlight, barely enough space to advance along on a motorcycle.

Suddenly I noticed a gaggle of squealing pre-teens lining up for motorcycle rides and practicing their English with “hello!”, ‘how are you?”, “welcome!” The kids apparently recognized me and the trusty steed “Silver” from an earlier visit. But this time it was necessary to apologize and explain in very weak Arabic what “next time” meant because I was rushing to an appointment with a camp social worker, who told me yet another “Hezbollah story” which affords insight into the Party’s relationship with Palestinians in Lebanon:

On August 9, 2005, a Palestinian mother named Fatima Khalife gave birth to Quadruplets in Shatila Camp. One of the four babies, Omar, was very ill and not expected to live. He needed life-saving surgery and his family inquired at the nearby Safah Hospital. Being Palestinian, Lebanese law forbids any assistance from the National Social Security Fund, meager as it is. UNRWA contributed around $2000 and some local NGOs another $1,500. Still about $37,000 shy, the family was very happy when an article about the boy’s plight was published in the local daily, As Safir. Two wealthy humanitarian Lebanese women came forward and offered to help the infant by paying for his surgery.

The Palestinian community was ecstatic and prayed for success with the delicate operation. Shortly before the scheduled surgery, a call was received at the hospital business office that caused its cancellation. When it was learned that Omar is a Palestinian, the well-to-do Lebanese ladies, perhaps with memories of the civil war and lost loved ones, withdrew their offer of medical assistance.

Word of what happened circulated in the crestfallen community. A local TV station, New TV, ran a story about the Khalife family’s desperate plight as Omar’s brain infection took a virulent turn. Within minutes of the program being aired, the office of Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah called Omar’s father. Hezbollah said it would like to pay for the boy’s surgery and all subsequent expenses until the boy was well. And it did. Nasrallah had watched the program and was deeply moved. Today, Omar is healthy, sweet, rambunctious, beautiful, three years old who just learned how to press the ignition button and start a foreigner’s motorcycle.

Hezbollah cannot solve all the Palestinian’s problems in Lebanon pending their return to Palestine, but with no one to rely on but themselves, Palestinians appreciate enormously such gestures as saving Omar.

At the risk of over-simplification, one concludes that these kinds of “Robin Hood” stories have created a broad admiration for the Hezbollah-led Resistance in Lebanon’s Palestinian community – as do Hezbollah’s straight-dealing with the Shatila and Burj al Burajneh Camps in the Ghoberi Municipality, where it helps with infrastructural, sewer and water projects (probably against “the law” and wishes of many in Lebanon).

This is not to say that there are no lingering personal grudges within Lebanon’s Shia/Palestinian community from individuals who suffered at the hands of the other over the past four decades during the civil war and Zionist occupation. Yet, one Palestinian friend, Samer, a Mar Elias Camp social worker, reported that both communities want to let bygones be bygones. He points out that marriages between Shia and Sunni and Christian Palestinians are increasing (his wife is Shia). He also pointed out and that he personally has more Hezbollah friends than Palestinian, as he introduced me to his best friend, Ali, a Shia and Hezbollah party member.

– The SabraShatila website is http://www.sabrashatila.org/
– Franklin P. Lamb, PhD is the director of Americans Concerned for Middle East Peace, Wash. DC-Beirut and is a Senior Fellow at the Institute for Middle East Policy Dialogue, USA. His book “The Price We Pay: A Quarter Century of Israel’s use of American Weapons against Lebanon (1978-2006)” is available at: Amazon.com.uk. He contributed this article to PalestineChronicle.com. Contact him at: fplamb@gmail.com.

fplamb@gmail.com.

UK military deaths in Afghanistan

UK military deaths in Afghanistan

Does anyone recall why the British Army is even in Afghanistan? Is it because we are freeing that country from the grips of the Taliban? Both the US & UK Governments were quite happy to provide the Taliban with both arms and funds when Afghanistan was occupied by Russia, even that arch villain bogeyman, Bin Laden, was on the American payroll. So why did this relationship break down, was it because of the terrorist attack on 9/11 on the world trade centre? Hardly both the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were actually planned before that event took place.

Was it because the USA could no longer stand by whilst the country was ruled by “Islamic extremists” and a lack of “democracy”? Not at all, the USA/UK were more than happy to have business relationships with the Taliban, the problems began when the business relationship broke down. The strategic location of Afghanistan can scarcely be overstated. The Caspian Basin contains up to $16 trillion worth of oil and gas resources, and the most direct pipeline route to the richest markets is through Afghanistan.
Almost as soon as the Russians had left, the Bridas Corporation of Argentina acquired production leases and exploration contracts in the region, and by November of 1996 had signed an agreement with the Taliban to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. However the American company Unocal had other ideas, even invited the Taliban to meetings in Washington, Berlin, and Islamabad, in an effort to persuade them to cancel the contract with Bridas in exchange for a tidy package of foreign aid. Unfortunately the negotiations between the Taliban, American Government officials and Unocal broke down. According to an article in the UK Guardian, State Department official Christina Rocca then told the Taliban at their last pipeline negotiation in August of 2001, just five weeks before 9/11, ‘Accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs.’
So to conclude the occupation of Afghanistan doesn’t have any noble motives, it is based purely on economics, and an US/UK attempt to control the Middle East oil reserves, which also explains the occupation of Iraq and the current threats against Iran over their non-existent nuclear weapons.

Our problem in the UK is that none of this appears likely to change in the short term as was confirmed recently by Brown standing next to George W. Bush, the world’s greatest terrorist, like an obedient puppy dog, promising to put at risk even more British lives, in the interests of American hegemony. Our problem is also that the Conservatives do not provide any opposition to what is happening and the Liberal Democrats seem to have lost their voice.

Only 15% of Jews are "Semitic"

Every time someone criticises the Apartheid State Zionists wail it’s “anti-semitic” Frankly I don’t care about this, as we say here in the UK “it’s like water off a duck’s back” because dumb remarks certainly aren’t going to stop my support for the Palestinians and that would be in any way I can and that will continue until Palestine is cleansed. This stupid term “anti-semitic” has been used so often to try and avoid criticism of the Apartheid State it no longer has any value.

In fact it appears that in reality it doesn’t even have any meaning. The Palestinians themselves are more “semitic” than the evil imposters who now temporarily occupy most of the State of Palestine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os0Lu2ByVCI

War in Georgia: The Israeli connection


A Very Important Story

“For past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Gerogian army to preparer for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice.

The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel’s intensive involvement in the region into the limelight. This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army’s infantry forces.

The Defense Ministry held a special meeting Sunday to discuss the various arms deals held by Israelis in Georgia, but no change in policy has been announced as of yet……

Israel began selling arms to Georgia about seven years ago following an initiative by Georgian citizens who immigrated to Israel and became businesspeople.

“They contacted defense industry officials and arms dealers and told them that Georgia had relatively large budgets and could be interested in purchasing Israeli weapons,” says a source involved in arms exports.

The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly. The fact that Georgia’s defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew contributed to this cooperation.

“His door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country arms systems made in Israel,” the source said. “Compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the defense minister’s personal involvement.”

Among the Israelis who took advantage of the opportunity and began doing business in Georgia were former Minister Roni Milo and his brother Shlomo, former director-general of the Military Industries, Brigadier-General (Res.) Gal Hirsch and Major-General (Res.) Yisrael Ziv.

Roni Milo conducted business in Georgia for Elbit Systems and the Military Industries, and with his help Israel’s defense industries managed to sell to Georgia remote-piloted vehicles (RPVs), automatic turrets for armored vehicles, antiaircraft systems, communication systems, shells and rockets.

According to Israeli sources, Gal Hirsch gave the Georgian army advice on the establishment of elite units such as Sayeret Matkal and on rearmament, and gave various courses in the fields of combat intelligence and fighting in built-up areas……..

Georgian minister: Israel should be proud

“The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers,” Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili said Saturday.

Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew. “We are now in a fight against the great Russia,” he said, “and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own.

“It’s important that the entire world understands that what is happening in Georgia now will affect the entire world order. It’s not just Georgia’s business, but the entire world’s business.”

One of the Georgian parliament members did not settle Saturday for the call for American aid, urging Israel to help stop the Russian offensive as well: “We need help from the UN and from our friends, headed by the United States and Israel. Today Georgia is in danger – tomorrow all the democratic countries in the region and in the entire world will be in danger too.””
# posted by Tony : 4:52 AM

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Putin accuses Georgia of genocide
Press TV

South Ossetia refugees on their way to Russia

“Russian Premier Vladimir Putin arrived in the capital of North Ossetia, and called Georgia’s acts in South Ossetia a species of “genocide”.

While in Vladikavkaz, the capital of North Ossetia, Putin said, “The actions of the Georgian leadership in South Ossetia are a crime and foremost they are a crime against their own people because a deadly blow has been delivered to the territorial integrity of Georgia, which brings massive damage to its national identity.”

Putin continued, “It’s hard to imagine after all that had happened and after all that is still happening they’ll be able to convince South Ossetia to be part of Georgia.”

The impact of what he saw led him to call for an investigation into alleged acts of genocide by Georgian forces during their offensive against South Ossetia, AFP reported.

Putin told President Dmitry Medvedev in comments that were broadcast on Sunday on Russian television that the incidents that were described by the refugees, “lie beyond the framework of understanding of military actions.”

He continued by saying, “In my opinion they are already elements of some kind of genocide of the Ossetian people. I think it would be correct if you instruct the military prosecutor to document all such incidents.”…….”

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Georgia clashes threaten EU oil supplies
War in the Caucasus: Towards a Broader Russia-US Military Confrontation?
In Georgia Clash, a Lesson on U.S. Need for Russia
The Pipeline War: Russian bear goes for West’s jugular
Bush, Cheney Increasingly Critical of Russia Over Aggression in Georgia
Getting Georgia’s War On
Why Words Matter: Final Thoughts on the Caucasus War
On Slog to Safety, Seething at West
The Real Aggressor
Big Russian flotilla led by Admiral Kuznetsov carrier heads for Syrian port
The Saakashvili experiment
Syria seeks weapons deal with Russia amid ‘Cold War’ ripples
Report: US pressuring Israel to halt talks with Syria
The Eurasian Corridor: Pipeline Geopolitics and the New Cold War
What Israel Lost in the Georgia War
Israel Was to Attack Iran from Georgia: Report
NATO Attack on Abkhazia, S.Ossetia is War on Russia
Russia Recognises S.Ossetia, Abkhazia As Independent
War in Ossetia: “Wag the Dog”
Ukraine’s Coalition Splits Over Power, Georgia
Israel Planned To Use Georgia Airbases In Iran Attack

US Contractors Training Georgian Military in Acts of Sabotage

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Raja Chemayel is delayed at the Amsterdam Airport because he had in his hand-luggage. ….. five kilos of Truth and six kilos of sarcasm , so the customs officers have arrested him……… …

so I arrived home before him now and I am sending this message
before he comes and without his consent …….

Moustafa Roosenbloom

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George, Georgia
and
Geography on my mind

Just look at a Map and you realise where is Georgia
and how far is the republic of Georgia….. …….from the State of Georgia (US) .

Never mind when the President of Georgia would be a Western-puppet ,or not,
you cannot remove Georgia from the Black Sea and from its neighbours.

Also when Georgia slaughters 1200 of its own Ossetian-citizens
on the first day of the conflict you cannot blame the Russian Army
of coming to protect a massacred-minority.

Obviously it is :

A Banana-republic between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea
is thought a lesson in human rights by a most powerful neighbour
which at least deserve some respect, even when Georgia would like
to enter the NATO (New American Totalitarian Organisation)

Entering the NATO does not allow genocides,
even when Condi Rice likes Georgia and George too .

Genocides are applicable and acceptable only for Muslim in Kosovo ,
in Bosnia and Herzegovina. …. no to forget Gaza.

So much for the Caucasian scene, the Pipe Line is coming soon
and this means that Georgia is on the World-Map and more over
we should not forget that Israeli-Capital was invested already
to the tune of one Billion Dollars (as a start)

in the birthplace of Joseph Stalin………………
and at the homeland of KHAZARIA…. ……..

The Georgian Army is being trained by Israeli-military- instructors
which explains the sudden and brutal massacre of the 1200 Ossetians,
the first 24 hours.

Never mind what I think and write, it is all about irritating the Russian-Bear,
it is all about the passage of Oil from the Caspian Sea to the Black-Sea,
it is all about a new NATO Puppet at the door step of the Tsars of 21st Century.

And the rest is history revisited……..
and Ossetians dying so that oil may flow.
and this is a Banana Republic too far ( or rather too near)

Moustafa Roosenbloom
with Geography on my mind…..
21st of August 2008
(one day before Raja comes!)

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The rapist of Ossetia

There is a lot going on in Georgia ,today :
The European Union is directly interfering ,
the NATO is getting ready to jump in
and the USA is sending humanitarian goods
all mixed with some sophisticated- Radars… …

( Probably they all want to protect Israel’s
newly acquired airfields in Georgia.)

If by chance you have not yet taken sides in this conflict ,
may I remind you that alone on the first day of those latest fighting,
Georgia has killed 1.200 Ossetians
out of an ethnic-minority consisting of 120.000 souls
which is 10% of that minority which Georgia pretends to include
as its “own proper-citizens” …..

I have read this information the first day , and now two weeks later ,
nobody has contested this number nor denied it…..
not even the Georgians have, nor Israel ,nor Rice, nor Fox-News.

So, Please make your own conclusion !!
and take sides , please !!

Eng. Moustafa Roosenbloom
one-sided-news- ethics-critic- analist-observer -investigator
09.09.08

nice legs

How could I complain about any “nice legs” ??
but , it seems to be
the only thing “nice”……about her !!

Yesterday she said :
” I never hesitated one second about going to war
into Iraq” …unquote

Would you have her as : “Vice-president”
or simply as
the President of all the vices ??

Eng. Moustafa Roosenbloom
private phone-number: 00 708 65 85 99 12
12 September 2008

PS :
With her as Vice-President ,
John Mac Cain will be shot down within a week !!
With her as Vice_President .
the body-guards cannot complain………

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with such a vice…….you still needs a President ??

Many anti-imperialist, many progressives persons
many anti-capitalist and anti-US-hegemony
all of them wanted in the past to :
f… the US President !

But the times have changed now
and they should review their previous intentions
(or rather review their pretencion’s)
because in case John Mac Cain might win this election
they would be much better off if they :
f… the vice-president !!.

Eng. Moustafa Roosenbloom
anti-imperialist , and anti-anything in her case !!
forth of September 2008

the Super-Terrorist

The Spy who came from the secret-slaughterhouse…………

Israel gets, today, a new Prime Minister
she did not massacre Palestinian- children in Sabra and Chatilla
like her row-model did……
she did not accept bribery’s like her predecessor did
she never did get a Nobel Peace Prize for initiating five wars
like Rabin and Perez…

No sir !! she is completely different !!
she is Lithuanian just like Isaak Rabin was , but
her father was a certified-Irgun- terrorist,
son of another renowned-Hagganah terrorist
which makes her a third-generation-terrorist.. …

and why do I dare call her ” terrorist ” ???

Elementary my Dear Watson !!!
she is, herself ,an ex-Mossade-agent- lieutenant
which makes her a supper terrorist.

Sherlock Hommos
Terrorist’s biographer ,
20Th of September 2008

PS :


By the way if Mrs. Livni is a “Semite-person ”
then my Siberian-Husky- dog…… is a Doberman-dog


The Israeli Gulags

During the Soviet Bolshevik era Jews ran the gulags resulting in an estimated loss of 30 million Christian lives. Now they inflict all their expertise on the unfortunate Palestinians. The Infinite Violation of Human Rights Throughout the decades of Israeli military occupation, Palestinians from all walks of life have been illegally detained by Israel. Since the beginning of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories in 1967, over 650,000 Palestinians have been detained by Israel. This forms approximately 20% of the total Palestinian population in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT).

Considering the fact that the majority of those detained are male, the number of Palestinians detained forms approximately 40% of the total male Palestinian population in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). The arrest and detention of Palestinians living within the OPT is governed by a wide-ranging set of military regulations that govern every aspect of Palestinian civilian life. There are now over 1,500 military regulations governing the West Bank and over 1,400 governing the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military commander of the region issues military orders, and the issuance of new orders often remains unknown and become apparent when they are implemented, as the military commander may issue new military regulations at any moment. Palestinians are tried within Israeli military courts located within Israeli military centers in the OPT. These military tribunals are presided over by a panel of three judges appointed by the military, two of who often do not have any legal training or background. These tribunals rarely fall within the required international standards of fair trial. In addition to the over 5000 Palestinians who were being held in Israeli prisons by the end of 2002, a large number of Palestinians have been wallowing in Israeli prisons for a number of years prior to this. For example, Ahmed Ibrahim Djbara, Abu Sukker, is 65 years old and the father of six grown children. He has spent the last 26 years of his life in prison. His crime was to fight to bring an end to the occupation. Wives and children of these men, as thousands of others before them, live now in constant fear and agony. For every Palestinian arrested, the story of a life is torn apart and an entire family broken. Yet the international community remains relatively silent in the face of Israel’s illegal detention of Palestinians and the fact that these detainees are often subjected to torture.

There is no doubt that peace in the region will never be attained as long as Palestinians are continuously denied their inalienable, fundamental rights. It is difficult to imagine that the sons and daughters of these thousands of Palestinians will one day forget what they suffered when their loved ones were thrown behind prison bars. The Geneva Conventions, the International Convention for Political and Civil Rights and the Convention against Torture and Cruel and Inhuman Treatment, all prohibit the use of torture, inhuman and degrading treatment, without exception. Israel has consistently violated international laws in this regard. Detention conditions enforced by Israel do not conform to the UN Minimum Standard Rules of the Treatment of Detainees, nor to the Principles of the Protection of all persons under all form of detention or imprisonment, or the Basic Principles of Treatment of Prisoners. These legal instruments bind Israel as they form regulations to treaties to which Israeli is a signatory. Instead of applying these laws formed by the community of nations, Israel blatantly continues in its systematic policy of torture of Palestinian detainees. Rather than hide this fact, it openly discusses it within its parliament, the Knesset.

In addition, Palestinians are tried in military tribunals in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, according to military regulations governing the area, often by soldier judges who do not hold adequate legal experience. In November 2001, UN Committee Against Torture reminded Israel that there is no justification for the use of torture in any circumstances. Use of torture is an grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention (articles 31-32, 146-147). Furthermore, the 4th Geneva Convention forbids the transfer of detainees outside the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Article 76 states that “all protected person accused of an offense must be detained within the occupied country and if they are sentenced, they have to serve the sentence within it.” However, Israel has continued to detain Palestinians in prisons throughout Israel, far from their families, who almost never obtain the necessary permits to leave the Occupied Palestinian Territories, which have become a large prison for the entire Palestinian community. Thousands of Palestinian men, women and children are in prison because of their refusal to accept foreign occupation. They must be released and allowed to rejoin their families in order to reintegrate their political and social life within the Palestinian State-to-be. Anyone who holds that ‘reforms’ or political negotiations can be effective without including all sectors of the Palestinian society fool themselves into missing a historical opportunity to allow for real, lasting reforms in Palestinian society. The time has come to open the prison gates, and allow Palestinians to decide their own future. The Process of Arrest The mass arrest campaigns conducted by the IDF beginning March 2002, within just a few months, resulted in the detention of approximately 15 000 Palestinians, mostly men, but also women and children. In a blink of an eye, entire villages were emptied of all men over the age of 15. Israeli imposed curfews also prevented those whom had been released from reaching their families for several days, leaving many families unsure as to whether their loved ones had been released, rearrested or killed. Arrest can happen anywhere and everywhere: at home (often followed by the ransacking of family homes, threats against family members and sometimes the destruction of the house), on streets or roads, at Israeli checkpoints, and, as was witnessed during the most recent Israeli invasions, in any public or private place.

Upon arrest, detainees are usually handcuffed and blindfolded. They are not informed of the reason for their arrest, nor are they told where they will be taken. Physical abuse and humiliation of the detainee by Israeli forces is common. Based on numerous sworn affidavits, detainees have reported that they have been submitted to attempted murder, rape, thrown down stairs while blindfolded, amongst many other forms of physical abuse. During the arrest, detainees have often been forced to strip in public before being arrested. Family members have also been forced to remove their clothes in house to house arrest campaign raids. Conditions of detention Regulations Governing Detention and Arrest The Israeli Prison Ordinance (revised 1971) consists of 114 clauses. However, there is no clause or sub-clause defining prisoners’ rights.

The Ordinance provides a legally binding set of rules for the Minister of Interior, but the Minister formulates these rules himself by administrative decree. There is no provision stipulating obligations incumbent upon the authorities, nor is there a clause guaranteeing prisoner’s minimum standards of life. In Israel, it is for example legally permissible to intern 20 inmates in a cell no larger than 5m long, 4m wide and 3m high. This space includes an open lavatory. The minimum standard in American and European prisons is 10.5 square meters per detainee. Prisoners may be confined indefinitely to such cells for 23 hours a day. The Shabas – Israeli prison service – is in charge of investigating cases of abuse in prison but it is difficult to determine whether their intervention helps or worsens the situation. Infrastructure There are approximately 24 detention centers in which Palestinian political prisoners are held in Israeli custody, scattered throughout the 1948 borders of Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories. There are a total of 5 interrogation centers, 7 detention/holding centers, 3 military detention camps, and 9 prisons in which Palestinians from the OPT are held. The location of prisons within Israel and the transfer of detainees to locations within the occupying power’s territory are illegal under international law and constitute a war crime. The Fourth Geneva Convention explicitly states that “Protected persons accused of offences shall be detained in the occupied country, and if convicted they shall serve their sentences therein.” (Article 47) There are only two military detention centers and one military detention camp located within the OPT. Some of these detention centers are buildings, while others are merely tents erected within military camps. Archaic prisons from the British mandate period have been reopened, such as the Ketziot Military Detention Camp in the Negev desert. Old, threadbare tents have been set up within this detention camp, exposing detainees to extreme weather conditions. Zinc huts house rudimentary hygiene facilities. At Ofer Military Detention Camp, located south of Ramallah, oil soiled hangars formerly used for military vehicles serve as holding areas for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. Negev, Ofer and Megiddo are all infested with flies, parasites, rats and other vermin.

All of these detention centers are extremely overcrowded. Detainees sleep on wooden planks covered by thin mattresses. Covers are rare and often provided by the families of detainees and human rights associations when items are allowed to enter the detention facilities. Electricity is sparsely provided and all movement is prohibited after sundown. Food Article (20) of the regulation of prisoners’ treatment, lower division, under the heading “food” states: “the administration is to provide each prisoner, during the regular hours, with sufficient, good quality, well prepared nutritious meals that should maintain the health and strength of the prisoners.” The prison’s administration is responsible for feeding all prisoners and all prisoners have the right to equal amounts of food. During the past few years, Israel has been encouraging detainees to obtain food from families or to purchase food from the prison canteen. However, the purchasing power of prisoners is radically divergent, and such encouragement by the Israeli authorities is immoral as they are ultimately responsible for providing sufficient food for prisoners. In most cases, it is the prisoners’ responsibility to provide more than half of their necessary food, which is problematic as most prisoners come from poor families. The food provided to Palestinian detainees is insufficient in both quantity and quality. Detainees are usually in charge of preparing their own meals with very little kitchen facilities and utensils. Only wooden and plastic spoons are allowed. The food is of poor quality and provided in small quantities. Between March and May 2002, for example, detainees in military detention camps were provided with frozen food that they were only able to defrost by sunlight. Hot drinks and meals are very rare. Basic food necessities such as olive oil, coffee, and sugar, are provided by detainees’ families and human rights associations, when possible. Getting these supplies through Israeli checkpoints is extremely difficult, and it is often lawyers who are able to carry these items in with them to detainees. Palestinian minors and women are served meals prepared by other detainees. This has resulted in numerous protests from Palestinian women who are being detained with Israeli criminal prisoners.

There are no special dietary considerations made for detainees who suffer chronic illnesses such as diabetes or high blood pressure. Other detainees often share their portions in order to provide them an adequate diet to meet their specific needs. Hygiene Detainees are not provided a change of clothing by the prison administration. Those injured during their arrest are forced to stay in blood-soiled clothing for several months, and those who were detained in their night clothes or underwear also do not receive a change of clothing. Soap is rationed by the prison administration, and other personal hygiene items are offered infrequently and are often unsanitary. Hot water is seldom available. For example, each section of 120 detainees at Ketziot Military Detention Camp receives one bar of soap each day, and none on Friday and Saturday. Mattresses used to sleep on are extremely worn, often from second hand military equipment, with some infested with vermin. Supplies to clean prison sections are offered infrequently and are insufficient. Garbage is removed irregularly, and the sewage system is in extreme disrepair. Health conditions A large number of detainees currently imprisoned are either wounded or ill. Many detainees taken in the arrest campaigns starting in March 2002 were injured by bullets during their arrest, particularly those held in Ofer Military Detention Camp. Prison clinics have become renown for offering only aspirin for all health treatments and physicians within the clinics are all soldiers. Health examinations are conducted through a fence, and any necessary surgery or transfer to hospital for additional medical treatment is usually postponed for long periods of time. Demands made by Israeli organizations to provide health care to detainees have consistently been refused, in addition to petitions made by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). As a result of the sub-standard conditions of detention, detainees who are released are often faced with chronic health problems such as skin diseases, weakness, kidney pain and ulcers. Family Visits Since the beginning of the current Intifada in September 2000, all family visits to detainees from the Occupied Palestinian Territories have been prohibited by Israel. All Palestinian citizens of the West Bank and Gaza Strip require special permits to travel within the 1967 borders of Israel. No such permit has been issued to families of detainees in the past two years. Several petitions have been submitted to the Israeli High Court, but have been systematically rejected.

The ICRC has organized group visits in the past, but with great difficulty. In some instances, for example with detainees in Ketziot prison, during the last months of 2002 the ICRC refused to comply with Israel’s restrictions on visits and therefore was not been able to organize these visits. Palestinian detainees are isolated from the outside world, with access to books, TV, and radios usually prohibited. Mail is strictly controlled. Telephone Calls The majority of prisons throughout the world ensure the basic right of prisoners to make phone calls to their families and lawyers. In Israel, a common criminal has the right to make such phone calls, but Palestinian or Arab security prisoners are deprived from such a right for security reasons. Even in humanitarian situations such as bereavement, prisoners are deprived of the right to pay their respects by phone. Prisoners have demanded this right many times but their requests have continuously been rejected. The Use of Torture during Interrogation and Detention The ruling of the Israeli High Court of Justice on 6 September 1999, following a petition by human rights organizations to ban the use of torture during interrogation, does not forbid the use of torture but rather allows that interrogation methods deemed as torture may be used in the “necessity of defense” and in situations where a detainee is deemed a ‘ticking bomb’. At most, it offers the victim of torture a small opportunity to submit a complaint if an abuse can be clearly proved. As Israel can legally hold detainees incommunicado for several weeks, GSS interrogators are able to use methods of torture without impunity. Legalized torture includes, for example, sleep deprivation and shackling for extended periods of time, amongst others. A Palestinian detainee can be interrogated for a total period of 180 days, during which he/she can also be denied lawyer visits for a period of 60 days.

After the 180 day period, charges must be brought against the detainee, or he/she must be released. During the interrogation period, a detainee is often subjected to some form of torture ranging in extremity, whether physical or psychological. In some instances, detainees have died while in custody as a result of torture. Confessions extracted through torture are admissible in court. In practice, Palestinian detainees are submitted to the following forms of torture: Routine: sleep deprivation, shabeh (position abuse), in which detainees are shackled to a chair in painful positions, squeezing of handcuffs, beatings, slaps, kicks, physical and psychological threats and humiliation; Special methods: the body tied in a contorted and extremely painful position, pressure on different parts of the body, strongly shaking the detainee after being shackled for a long period of time, head covered with a filthy, soiled sack, strangulation and other means of suffocation, pulling of hair, multiple humiliations; Inside the cells: sleep deprivation, handcuffed to the bed, exposure to extreme temperatures, prolonged and continuous exposure to artificial light, solitary confinement, tear gas inside the cells, inhuman detention conditions. GSS agents can act with full impunity. If a complaint is lodged, investigations are confidential and led by a GSS agent under the authority of the State Attorney. No agent has been charged since the responsibility for investigations was transferred to the Ministry of Justice in 1994. Other bodies like the IDF, Border Police, Police and others also use torture and inflict ill treatment upon detainees during arrest, interrogation or detention. Legal system governing detention Under Israeli military regulations a Palestinian can be detained for up to 12 days without the Israeli military informing the detainee of the reason for his/her arrest and without being brought before a judge. Between April and June 2002, Military Order 1500, issued on 5 April 2002, increased this period of time to 18 days. The army is also not obliged to inform the detainee’s family of their arrest or the location of their detention. After or within this period, the person is sent to an interrogation center, placed in administrative detention, or held in custody awaiting a charge sheet and trial.

According to Israeli legislation, interrogation can last for up to 180 days. After the period of interrogation, military judges can extend the detention for the time needed for the public prosecutor to provide charges against the detainee. What can follow is either the judgment of the detainee, or more frequently, his/her transfer to administrative detention. In the case of administrative detention, lawyers and detainees face charges based on secret evidence. These secret files are prepared by the GSS. This element violates International Law and Human Rights Charters but is congruent with the legislation in force in the State of Israel. In these conditions, it is impossible to exercise the right of defense. Theoretically, administrative detention can be extended indefinitely. Detainees do not know when they will be released and or why they are being detained. In many cases, arrest and detention are renewed at the prison’s gate. Palestinian detainees have spent up to 8 years in prison without being tried under administrative detention orders. The current longest serving Palestinian detainee in administrative detention has been held for three years without charge or trial. Deportation, abroad or to another region of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, following detention can be ordered as a result of either a military or High Court ruling or as a political compromise, as was the case with the 13 Palestinians who were deported to various European countries and 26 Palestinians deported to Gaza in a political negotiation to end the siege on the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. Judicial Structures Military orders are the main components of Israeli legislation in force in the Occupied Palestinian Territories that govern Palestinian detainees and prisoners, and are issued by the Israeli military commander of the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Within the courts, military orders always take precedence over Israeli and International law. Israeli military courts refuse to apply international laws and conventions, and no legal claim whatsoever is possible in order to protect individuals under military occupation.

All Palestinians from the Occupied Palestinian Territories are submitted to Israeli military courts, even in the case of civil incidents, such as a car accident involving an Israeli. Military courts of appeal are the last instance. The case of Marwan Barghouti is unique in that it is taking place within a civil court. Military courts apply legislation in force in an arbitrary manner, with no consistent application of regulations. The military legislation in itself is discriminatory. Confessions made under torture, for example, are enough to sentence a child to several years of imprisonment. Discriminatory Laws A Palestinian can be held in custody for 8 + 18 days before being brought before a judge. An Israeli citizen, however, can be held in custody for only a maximum of 48 hours before being brought before a judge. A Palestinian can be held without charge, by order of a jurist-judge, for an initial period of 30 days, which can be extended for 6 months by the legal advisor for the Occupied Palestinian Territories, via a military court of appeals (this does not include the possibility of administrative detention, in which case no charges are brought against the detainee who will never be tried). An Israeli citizen can be held without indictment for an initial period of 15 days, which can be extended for only another 15 days. Lawyer visits can be prohibited for up to 90 days after the day of arrest for a Palestinian detainee . The meeting between an Israeli detainee and his attorney can be delayed for a total of 15 days. The maximum allowable civilian sentences are considerably less severe than those allowable in the military tribunals, a major reason for the significant differential in sentences passed upon Israelis and Palestinians. For example, a Palestinian convicted of manslaughter by a military tribunal is subject to a maximum sentence of life imprisonment, while an Israeli convicted of manslaughter in a civilian court faces a maximum of 20 years.

The difference in sentencing structures is reinforced by regulations in the two penal systems regarding the early release of prisoners. Under the Israeli penal code, prisoners may be released after serving two-thirds of their sentence. The military orders under which Palestinians are judged do not allow for early release for any reason. Separated and unequal before the law, the different penal codes under which Palestinians and Israelis are governed takes place in different courts; application of the law is systematically discriminatory. Comparative Case Studies Sanaa, 14 years old, from Hebron was arrested after her older sister had attempted to stab a settler in the street. She was found guilty of planning to stab a settler, however the court agreed that Sanaa did not carry out her plan and, in fact, at the time of her arrest was standing alone and unaware of what was happening around her. Five months after her arrest, a three-judge court, after 3 hours of deliberation, sentenced her to 1 year in prison with an additional 4 years suspended sentence if she should commit any offence during the next 5 years. The court did not take into account her age or the fact that she did not carry out any violent act. During the whole day at the courtroom, she was not given food and her legs remained shackled. Her hands were handcuffed whenever the judges left the room. Her father was not allowed to speak to his daughter. (DCI-PS) Nahum, 37 years old, from the illegal settlement of Bitar Ilit, was sentenced to 6 months of community service for the brutal slaying of an 11-year-old Palestinian boy. According to the eyewitnesses, Nahum brutally assassinated the boy by kicking him in the head and beating him with the butt of his rifle. Originally acquitted by the District Court of Jerusalem, the Israeli Supreme Court found him responsible for the vicious murder after an appeal by the prosecutors. However, Nahum received a sentence of only community service and a fine of $17,000 US. Between December 1987 (the beginning of the first Intifada) and March 2001, Israeli settlers killed 119 Palestinians, including 23 children under the age of 17, in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. From the serious deficiencies evidenced in investigations, or merely the lack of investigation itself, to the low sentences passed by courts, the complicity of the Israeli legal system in the cases of murder of Palestinians becomes evident. Of 89 cases monitored by B’Tselem over this period, only 22 were convicted: 6 of murder, 7 of manslaughter, 7 of negligent homicide, and 2 charged with firing in a residential area and possession of a weapon without permit. Only 3 convictions resulted in life sentences, from which 2 were reduced to 13 and 11 years respectively of imprisonment. Although the expected sentence for manslaughter is 20 years, the 7 settlers convicted received sentences ranging from 6 months to 7 and half years of imprisonment. While the normal sentence for negligent homicide is 3 years, of the 7 cases mentioned above, 5 received community service sentences and 2 received 5 and 18 months prison sentences. 39 files were closed without legal actions. Between December 1987 and March 2001, 115 Israelis have been killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. In each case, an investigation has been opened. Only 10 cases have been closed. 33 Palestinians were convicted of murder and all received life sentences, without the possibility of clemency or reduction of their sentence. One Palestinian was convicted for complicity of murder. No Palestinian was convicted for manslaughter or negligent homicide, rather than murder.

No Palestinian was acquitted because he had acted in self-defense. Israeli security forces killed 15 suspects before they were brought to trial. In 22 cases, in addition to the prison sentence, suspect’s family house has been demolished or sealed. Description of offenses In addition to administrative detention allowing in practice the detention of every Palestinian, to the free interpretation of ” security reasons ” and the application of the law ruled by arbitrariness, acts defined as crimes in Israeli legislation also provide wide possibilities for sentencing and imprisonment. For example, participating in an exhibition to benefit a charity organization linked to Hamas is a crime of ” terrorist association “. Carrying or placing a Palestinian flag is a crime in itself. Removing the rubbish put in the middle of a road by Israeli soldiers after they have left is another crime. Fire in the air during a wedding, as is the tradition, constitutes a danger for Israel’s national security, although it happens in the autonomous territories (area A). A student of a Hamas Koranic school can be sentenced to 14 months of prison for his participation at the lesson. Participation in a demonstration is a case of disrupting public order. Pouring coffee for a member of a declared illegal association is support to a terrorist organization. Palestinian national security forces are an illegal association. Main difficulties faced by lawyers and human rights associations: Human rights activists, in the current situation, faces the risk of arrest by Israeli occupation forces; The obstacles to freedom of movement within the West Bank, Gaza Strip and outside it, curfews and other forms of collective punishment inflicted upon the Palestinian society by the Israeli military occupation considerably hinders everyone’s work, among others, to collect information concerning human rights violations and verify them. Organizations are not allowed to enter the prisons, nor are they allowed to visit prisoners; The number of lawyers is limited to defend an increasing number of detainees; Palestinian lawyers can only defend their clients before military courts located in the Occupied Palestinian Territories; for the High Court they must be members of the Israeli Bar association;

The difficulties faced by lawyers in the exercise of their work are mainly related to the arbitrary nature of occupation and impunity. Very often, lawyers are not informed of the date of a hearing. Their access to the prisons is limited and they are searched there. The use of confessions made under torture (under legal as well as other forms of torture) and of submission of secret files allows only a purely superficial defense. The refusal to implement and abide by international laws diminishes all possibilities of ensuring the respect of basic rights.

The Palestinians of Iraq

Contributed by Lucia

A reply to Palestinian Pundit (Blaming Shiite thugs in Iraq)

Thanks Lucia: You hit the nail

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It is only the Baathist/Saddamites and their supporters, like Uruknet, that blame the “sectarian Shiite thugs” for the terrorism perpetrated against the Palestinian refugees in Iraq. Add it the zio- or zio-influenced press; being the Saddamites far more rabid than the zios in their hatred for their shia kin, since the Zionists identify the attackers as “Iraqi security forces”, “We used to say the attacks occurred by militias or gangs; but now the state is attacking,” Haaretz; “Dozens of Palestinians have been killed in Iraq by Iraqis belonging to various political and religious factions”, Shi’ite militias and Iraqi intelligence officers, militiamen” Jlem Post

I have already said that Sistani had issued a Fatwa forbidding any attacks on Palestinians, what makes the baathist claim above very improbable. So, the culprits have to be found elsewhere, even though isolated pockets of shia/Mehdi might hypothetically have disobeyed their guru and be implicated, given the chaos existing in Iraq. Buy let’s have in mind that there is no reliable information signalling the Shias/Mahdi for the murder, torture of Palestinians in Iraq, much the less for the drillings.

These are terms that only the Baathist/ Saddamists use, extending their finger towards Iran (“the Safavids” the “turbaned backward Mullahs” as they call them) as the ultimate and main responsible.You won’t find a serious investigative journalist like Pilger, who wrote often on the war on Iraq, blaming the Shias-Mahdi. Neither Dahr Jamail, an honest reporter with first hand knowledge of what’s going on there.

Dahr Jamail has alluded the sectarianism between shia and sunni, which he linked cent per cent to the Americans’ “special intelligence units” and “death squads”, but I have never read him relating the shia with the murder of Palestinians. So, there is not enough evidence to prove the Baathist’s claims, which are obviously driven by resentment and hatred.

A google search will only come up with the two articles already mentioned in an earlier thread (14.09), that is, the Washington Post article, and the Daily Telegraph one. WaPo is not, in my book, a reliable source of info on Iraq or the Mideast. It is too Zionist-biased, and has been pro-war since the very beginning.

But, despite its starting with describing the “grisly attacks and other sectarian violence” as “unleashed by the bombing of a Shia shrine”, the Saddamites don’t hesitate bringing it up, just because it mentions some families “blaming the Mahdi for the abduction”.

So, by and doing an exercise in selective readingdecide to ignore what follows “Aides to Sadr denied the allegations, calling them part of a smear campaign by unspecified political rivals” and “In the Shiite holy city of Najaf, aides to Sadr denied any role in the killings” and “Sahib al-Amiri, another close aide, said: “Some political party accused [Sadr’s political party] and the Mahdy Amy because they considered us as competitive to them. So they recruited criminals to kill Shiites and sunnis”

Thus the Saddamites cherry pick whose paragraphs to believe, duh, obviously the ones that fit their pre-established script. This even despite of the WaPo quoting some paragraphs below that “The bulk of the previously known deaths were caused by bombings and other large scale attacks As to the Daily Telegraph, it belongs to the same owners of the Jerusalem Post.

The Daily Telegraph is called by the British satirical magazine Private Eye as The Telavivagraph for its unwavering support for Israel, particularly the Likud party, and its connection with those with a vested interest in Israel’s prosperity, particularly Conrad Black and Barbara Amiel.

Black was its former owner. Current ones are the controversial Barclays twins; but the Telegraph was bought in 1855 (only few months after it was founded) by Joseph Moses Levy and his wife Esther née Cohen -not likely ancestral British names, uh?- Their son Edward Levy inherited it, and was later appointed as 1st Baron Burnham in 1903. More things can be said about the Daily Telegraph. But suffice with the above, to shed more light to the issue in question. I’d also suggest those interested, to read a todays article by the Palestinian journalist Iqbal Tamimi at Palestine Think Tank website, explaining her personal experience with it.I’ll paste below fragments of an older important article of hers regarding the Palestinians of Iraq, where she puts names to their attackers. The Mahdi appears only twice, as storming and wounding Palestinians. But, being this bad enough, the worst “operations” were not done by them.

The Palestinians of Iraq

The Palestinians residing in Iraq came from villages around Haifa, which used to be called the villages of Alhamamah Albeda (The White Dove). Those were the villages of (Ijzim, Jabaa and Ayn Ghazal). These villages have witnessed many battles between the Palestinian citizens and the Zionist gangs. Many families lost their men while defending their land. Some of the most famous names are: Ali Massoud Almadi, Tawfiq Msheenesh, and Khader Abu Abdul Aziz Shukair.

After the occupation of Haifa, the Palestinians who remained alive immigrated to the city of Jenin aided by the Iraqi army, which used to be part of the so-called Salvation Army, which also included Syrian and Arab forces.

Then the Iraqi army helped evacuate them by means of military buses to Iraq, their number was approximately 3500. This decision was made after the guardian of Iraq and his sister Queen Alia visited Jenin and witnessed the situation. He ordered the army troops to bring the Palestinians as guests of Iraq. Some remained in Jenin, others emigrated to Syria and Jordan.

The number of Palestinian refugees in Iraq before the USA occupation of Iraq in 2003 was 30,000 refugees according to UNHCR statistics.

After the exodus from Palestine to Iraq, the Palestinian refugees were initially housed in shelters and cellars, and then they started sharing with other families a number of houses. This was common among the refugees because they were not allowed to own any property, besides the fact that there were no international institutions or organizations to care for them in Iraq such as the United Nations.

The Palestinians were later granted refugee status in Iraq, and started to work in odd jobs to support their families. The students were offered places in Iraqi schools and collages and were treated exactly like Iraqi students.

After the Anglo-American occupation forces took over control of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, this led to widespread chaos in Iraq, and loss of the security the occupiers promised the Iraqis. This chaos and confusion was used by some parties to target the Palestinians in Baghdad, especially in the Albaladiyat district which is among the largest Palestinian communities in Iraq. The Palestinians were described with words like “Saddamists”. The Palestinians would not dare to show any ID card proving their nationality, nor use their Palestinian dialects.

They received lots of death threat letters, and were told to leave Iraq or else they will end up dead and their fate will be like their “friend”. Many Palestinians were kidnapped and killed. Many incidents were reported of Palestinians who were assassinated and their bodies dumped at garbage sites bearing torture wounds and mutilatation. The latest statistics report that almost 600 Palestinians were killed in Iraq.

Among those killed

Liza Ali Husain 26, and her two children Rahman Ahmad 6, and Ali Ahmad 3. Their bodies were found 50 days after their abduction.

The National Guards abducted the Palestinian Mohammad Abbas Nimer from the Islamic University at AlAthamieyah on the 4th of June 2004, and no one knows anything about his whereabouts up till this moment.

Ziyad Faleh Mahmoud Abu Jeedeh was arrested by the state forces at Almashtal area on the 4th of January 2006, and then he was killed.

Adel Ateyah was working in his barber shop in Albaladyat neighbourhood when he was abducted by a gang wearing black, he was beaten up, sworn at, then they took him away on the 15th of January 2006. Since then no one knows his whereabouts.

Khalid Mohammad Qtaish was assassinated by Al Rafidain Brigade on the 22nd of Januar 2006.

Arrests:

The Palestinians would be arrested and transferred to an unknown place. Then and there torture begins, accompanied by fabricated accusations for the detainee.

The abductors used all kinds of torture starting by stripping the Palestinian of his clothes, and beatings on the genitals, electric shocks, and extracting his nails. Then the bargaining starts with his family, to release him for a ransom. If they could not find anything to charge him with, he will be charged with “being a Palestinian,” some of those tortured are:

Sameer Jameal was arrested from his shop at Albab Alsharqi on the 14th of January 2006.

Mohammad Ahmad Alhorani was working as a taxi driver, he was arrested on the 16th of January 2005 at a checkpoint after handing them his Palestinian ID.

Mohammad Darweesh, and Mohammad Abdelfattah were both arrested by the security forces in the new Baghdad district on the 24th of January 2006.

Cars belonging to the Rafidain Brigade stormed the municipal district in Baghdad on the 25th of January 2006, and arrested the teachers Kamal Saleem, Jamal Saeed and Yasser Hassan.

Interior commandos stormed the compound of Za’faraniya and arrested Hilal Saud on the 27th of January 2006.

Raids:

Raids have been done against the homes of Palestinians in the late hours by the Iraqi National Guardsmen and U.S. forces. Such operations were carried out amid harassment of Palestinians and destruction of their homes and personal belongings in search of claimed evidence. Some of such examples are:

On the 6th of December 2004 the U.S. occupation forces surrounded the Albaladiyat neighborhood with more than seventy armored vehicles, then raided the Haifa Club and detained dozens of Palestinians for hours.

U.S. and Iraqi forces raided the home of the Palestinian Adel Omar Al-Isawi in AlIlam neighborhood after midnight; the soldiers searched the house and arrested the owner without any reason.

AlMahdi Army gangs stormed Alquds mosque in AlBaladiyat area and wrecked it, leaving havoc and chaos on the 22nd of February 2006.

AlMahdi Army gang stormed the residential compound in Baghdad amid intensive gunfire, leaving five Palestinian men and one woman wounded on that same day.

Members of Altheeb Brigade attacked Albaladiyat compound the next day and harassed a number of Palestinian youths.

The bombing of houses

Palestinian homes were exposed to shelling and mortar detonations, by placing the explosives at the doorsteps of the Palestinians’ houses. Such operations were carried out by armed militias and American and Iraqi forces. Some of those incidents as an example:

A mortar shell landed on the compound of Albaladiyat area, killing five Palestinians and wounding others on the 31st of January 2004.

A mortar shell landed on one of the Palestinian homes knocking down the house and injuring two Palestinians on the 2nd of February 2006.

A mortar shell landed near a house but did not explode on the 22nd of Febrary 2006.

Media incitement against the Palestinians in Iraq

Incitement of hatred has been done by distorting the facts and targeting the Palestinians to convict them of criminal acts in Baghdad. This has been clear in many of the Iraqi media outlets, which does not enjoy credibility and professionalism.

As an example, several explosions occurred in the New Baghdad area on the 12 of May 2005, four Palestinians were accused and arrested for investigation, but proved to have been innocent, however, Iraqi TV channels like AlFayhaa, the Euphrates and the Iraqiya TV channels broadcasted the accusations, but when the accused Palestinians were proven innocent none of them mentioned that. Incitement against the Palestinians was continued.

Back to the camps

At the beginning the Palestinians were forced to live within camps in Baghdad, but after the attacks against them continued, accompanied by threatening letters to leave Iraq or else, they had no choice but to flee, knowing that 600 Palestinians had been killed in Iraq.

The number of Palestinian refugees in Iraq dropped to 15 thousand refugees after the mass exodus of Palestinians towards the borders of Arab countries, where many camps were established, some of those camps are:

Alwaleed Camp

This camp is located in the Anbar region in the Iraqi territory, and it is one of the worst camps social and health wise. When Alwaleed Camp was established early in 2007 it accommodated 32 refugees, the number of refugees in the camp now exceeds 939 people. The refugees live within a number of tents, assisted by human aid organizations, and the United Nations operating inside Iraq.

Some of the incidents recorded within this Camp:

Three death cases, those were (Osama Jamal Zuhdi Al-Murtada, born 1977, he died after suffering asthma), Ali Sydam (born 1949, he suffered heart problems) and a baby girl called Ratad Omer (6 months old, she died of anaemia).

The residents of the camp started a hunger strike on the 11th of April 2007, until their demands were met. They requested an improvement in their conditions.

On the 23rd of that same month the camp faced sand storms which led to difficulty in breathing and uprooting of their tents.

On the 29th the refugee Abdul Aziz Mohamed (19 years) was injured due to a fire that started inside his tent.

On the 3rd of May 2007 a decision was made to close Alwaleed Camp and to stop receiving more Palestinian refugees.

The Tanf Camp

The Tanf Camp is located between the Syrian and Iraqi borders. The distance between its location and the Iraqi gate is 3 km. while it is 300 metres away from the Syrian gate. It was established in May 2006. It has become the home of 350 Palestinian refugees who are suffering from the poor environmental, health, and social conditions present there.

Many incidents were documented in this camp provided for by the Aid of the Palestinian factions residing on Syrian territory and organizations like the United Nations.

Some of the events that happened in this camp and worth mentioning:

12-year-old Ahmad Akram Mousa died after a big truck ran him over on its way to Iraq on the 28th of August 2006.

The camp was raided by the Iraqi border guards on the 18th of June 2006, arresting many Palestinian refugees.

The refugee Mohammad Lutfi Alshaikh Khaleel died on the 30th of March 2007 of kidney failure.

On the 9th of April 2007 the refugees in the camp voted to create a committee to manage the camp.

A strong fast sand storm hit the camp on 19th of April 2007 injuring many and uprooting the tents.

An enormous fire broke out in the camp on the 24th of April 2007, injuring 7 families and burning 21 tents to the ground.

On the 6th of May 2007, the refugees at the camp expressed solidarity with the detained Palestinian prisoners in the prisons of the Zionist state of Israel.

On the 9th of May 2007, 6 cases of dehydration and malnutrition among the children in the camp were reported.


Al Ruweished Camp

This camp is situated on the Iraqi Jordanian borders. 550 Palestinian refugees moved there from Iraq on the 1st of May 2003. Since that date they are experiencing the living hell with no hope of finding another alternative, battling against the harsh desert life and the sand storms which keep attacking their tents.

Humanitarian workers in the field had to wear goggles to be able to work in such difficult circumstances. The people in the camp suffer outbreaks of respiratory problems caused by the storms of fine dust, in addition to the hot climate in the summer and severe cold in the winter. After three years since their arrival to the desert camp, they are still living in simple tents and huts made of wooden frames and blankets stitched together.

During the past three years, the Palestinian refugees at Ruweished camp are still prisoners in practical terms; the camp fence is guarded by Jordanian police. The refugees have to request permission to leave the camp to go shopping for essentials in the nearby town of Ruweished, but they can not leave the camp for any other reason.
When a refugee needs hospital treatment, the police constantly guard him in hospital near his bed.

Should any relatives, friends, journalists, relief officials or human rights workers want to visit any person in Ruweished camp, they require obtaining an approved permission from the Minister of Interior of Jordan.

There is a mother in Jordan who has three sons (Palestinian Iraqis) in Ruweished Camp, but the Jordanian authorities would not allow them to join their mother in Jordan, And she has to obtain such approval to be able to visit them in the camp.

Alhoul Camp

This camp lies inside the Syrian territory, in the Hasakah city, 700 km northeast of the Syrian capital of Damascus. The refugees were allowed to live in Syria on the 9th of May 2006 after the Jordanian authorities denied them the permission to stay inside its borders when they were on the Iraqi-Jordanian border in the Tarbeel Camp.

The Syrian authorities allowed them to build blocks covered with metal sheets. All 307 of them are unemployed. They get aid from Palestinian factions in Syria, International humanitarian organizations and the UN.

Many outbreaks of diseases have affected their children like jaundice, which demands care at hospitals.

source

By Iqbal Tamimi • Aug 5th, 2008 at 12:12 • Category: Analysis, Nakba and Right of Return, Newswire, Palestine, Uprooted Palestinians’ Testimonies, War, Zionism

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Lucia
Obsessions are not healthy.
Zarathustra 09.21.08 – 4:18 pm #
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who’s obsessed?

Lucia 09.21.08 – 4:28 pm #

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of course Lucia the genocide revisionist keeps DENYING what the Palestinians in Iraq have said themselves– namely that that SHIITE death squads tied to the fucking Mahdi army, the Badr and the Dawa, (who form the current Iraqi govt and who came to power thanks to US and Iran), financed and trained by IRAN, including some fucked QUDS iranian brigades –were liquidating them.

The Palestinian population in Iraq dropped from 35’000 or so to about 10’000 since the fucking occupation.

But the fucked up histerical lucia would have none of that, coz she knows better, parroting her fucking lice, flea riddled mullahs from Qum.

Damn it !
Layla Anwar 09.22.08 – 12:21 am #

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***** more to my comments above *****

Salafist websites this week launched a barrage of stinging attacks on Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Predominantly these attacks came from sites linked with Saudi Arabia.

Comment: At the same time that these web sites are attacking these movements, large financial resources are being channeled to the Salafists from Saudi Arabia.

Commentators on the internet suggest that the motivation for this campaign, possibly encouraged by western agencies, is the attempt
Lucia 09.22.08 – 12:47 am #

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The haloscan is messing links up. My previous post got truncated by the link. Again:

Salafist websites this week launched a barrage of stinging attacks on Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Predominantly these attacks came from sites linked with Saudi Arabia.

Comment: At the same time that these web sites are attacking these movements, large financial resources are being channeled to the Salafists from Saudi Arabia.

Commentators on the internet suggest that the motivation for this campaign, possibly encouraged by western agencies, is the attempt to divert Sunni Arab anger away from Israel – and to re-direct it to an alternative “enemy”, Iran and its “allies”.

“Moderate” Arab leaders are concerned that the growing hostility to Israel undermines their domestic situation by exposing their support for President Abbas as tantamount to collaboration with Israel in oppressing Palestinians living in Gaza. As popular Arab hostility towards Israeli actions directed towards Gaza grows, so street anger towards these regimes rises – and the popularity of Iran, Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah increases: This makes “moderate” leaders feel vulnerable. (continues…)

Lucia 09.22.08 – 12:56 am #
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Of course lalalayla, the baathist-saddamist cheap demagogue continues on “her” pulpit willing to sell motor-bikes, as long as she’s allowed to.

It happens I don’t buy them!, as won’t do any person having ONE functioning neurone.

Now the following last paragraph is only for lalalayla, so the rest please skip it.

I want to tell you, using your scatological language, that appears to be the only one you understand:

** LAYLA GO TO SHIT! **

Is it clearer now for you?

Lucia 09.22.08 – 1:09 am #

Lucia, Not only are you an ignorant person which is obvious, but you are also arrogant and paternalistic. Look at yourself: You speak no Arabic, No Persian, never been to Iraq, do not know anything about its people yet you allow yourself to “debate” them about issues concerning their own lives and country while you sit comfortably in your home in Europe somewhere. What is most amusing about you is your self-assured tone. I love it. Maybe its chic for a Westerner to support the ostensibly anti-Imperialist, anti-Zionist (and maybe in western eyes even exotic) Persian Mullahs, but for Layla Anwar and other Iraqis these are real issues dealing with life and death. So you will have to excuse us that we don’t consider this to be some sort of debating contest and quite simply tell you to FUCK OFF!

Secular Arab 09.22.08 – 2:01 am #

What a chutzpah!

None other than secular arab who FLED Irak and HIDES in Texas, of all places!, under the skirts of his country’s enemy. And this dude is telling me who I am to speak of Irak!?

Listen dude!.

I’m a foreigner who is showing far more interest than you and your lalalaina do. If your interest for your country were like this – you’d be there fighting the occupiers, even with the teeth if need be, instead of being cowardly hiding abroad, and preaching over the internet.

Lucia 09.22.08 – 2:32 am #

“Conviction is a greater enemy of Truth than lies” .Lucia fell victim to her own convictions and used the same rationalizations that she always fought against. Benny Morris uses the same logic to whitewash Zionist crimes in Palestine , and now she is obsessed about trying to exonerate the shia death squads from their crimes against the Palestinians. I guess in Lucia’s world it makes sense for the Zionist to commit atrocities against the Palestinians but why would the Mahdi army do so ? In essence everyone critical of Mahdi or Badr or Iran for that matter for their role in Iraq quickly gets labeled “Sadamist” , “Zionist” or “Sectarian Sunni”. Same way anyone who is critical of Israel gets labeled as “Anti Semite”.Pity.

Zarathustra 09.22.08 – 2:42 pm #

Zarathustra, you’re showing your lil leg under the door way too much. Beware! Some other one, even a friend of yours, may notice you are the wolf rather than little red riding hood-Lucia 09.22.08 – 3:21 pm #

how funny.

Scroll down to find this:ليلى و الذئب,

hahahahaha-

Lucia 09.22.08 – 3:45 pm #

In Defense of Lucia

I deplore the personal attacks on Lucia. She has been a strong supporter and a dedicated reader and contributor.

She is by far better informed than most when it comes to the Middle East, and in particular when it comes to the Palestinians.

I am greatly indebted to Lucia for her numerous contributions and postings on this blog.

Differences of opinion and objective debate are healthy. As I expressed to Lucia before, I differ with her on the issue of the Shiite sectarian militias in Iraq and their brutal killing and torture of Palestinians there.

I would appreciate if the debate is kept at a decent level and away from the personal attacks. Lucia is entitled to her opinion on this issue.
Tony Sayegh Homepage 09.23.08 – 9:33 am #

Layla Anwar,

After Tony’s “major rethink” (A few days ago he realized what the Iraqis and Baathists have been saying for 20 years about Iran)he had a fall out with Lucia.

Attacking Iraqis (although qualified as an attack on Baathists/Arab Nationalist/Chauvinists/Persian Bashing/Saddamist dead-enders)is a cheap and convenient attempt to try o mend fences. He has no interest in Iraq and couldnt care less about our Nakba.

This was such an artifical and blatantly transparent gimmick that its laughable.

If Tony wants to be taken seriously he should address Lucia’a open support of Iranian occupation of Iraq and her anti-Arab racism, and not try to gloss over these major differences by attacking pro-Saddam Iraqis.

What is this? Amateur season?
Secular Arab 09.23.08 – 9:10 pm #

Secular Arab, so you want to hook me, duh? What a cretin!

You’re a very stupid guy. Really, and I mean REALLY very stupid. You’d better shut up, rather than posting those porno-tirades speaking of yourself like neon lights.

For, hadn’t we already known long ago that you’re a coward hiding in the enemy’s barracks, it would be crystal clear by now after all the crap you posted.

Don’t say again you’re an iraqui because you put iraquis TO SHAME with such a detestable image.

Don’t even say you’re an arab because you’re an EMBARRASSMENT for the arabs; you’re the antithesis of an arab true man. You’re the most dishonest and the most vulgar poster I’ve ever seen in the net in years.

Since you’ve been lurking or posting here under various nicks, you’ve insulted everyone, starting with Tony in the first place and following with anyone whose views you did not share. You’re the typical zio-troll, dedicated to harassing in blogs. You’re nothing but a petty mustarabim working for zion. Shame on you!

Lucia 09.23.08 – 10:56 pm #

Lucia sweeety,

I see you have stuck on another testosterone patch today. You really should take it easy with those things. And I thought we already decided that the only people hiding behing the “Great Satan’s” army are your Iranian-Sponsored friends in the green zone. They’re afraid to come out because of my friends, not yours. We all remember the sectarian lynching of the President which was carried out by those hyenas you support under the protection of 5000 US soldiers. They were afraid of Saddam Hussein even with his hands tied, rope around his neck, and thousands of American soldiers standing guard protecting them. Those are YOUR friends.

As for who is an Iraqi or a “true Arab man”..well…that’s not for you to decide. We will leave that for people who know the land, country, language, and people. You dont, and how arrogant of you to think you do. What sort of anti-Arab stereotype are you trying to exploit by references to manhood? Did you happen to read somewhere that such statements make Arab men upset? Was this some sort of attempt at provovation? Your ignorance, and the stereotypes you rely on in making such silly comments is revealing, not to mention amusing.

This is the only name I use as I told you before, and I stand by all I said. If you want to challenge me on anything you are welcome, but name calling does not help, but at this point your credibility is so shattered it doesn not even hurt either. Again, take it easy on the testosterone patches. I hear excessive use is harmful.
Secular Arab 09.23.08 – 11:47 pm #

Layala & the wolf


Secular Arabo,

Enta rajaloon wal rijalu qaleelu.
Lucia, hadhee sheenoo Luchia, lootia ? ghabbiya w7aya.

Agoolech Lucia, wlich entee shlon khilqa ta3bana ! lol
Layla Anwar 09.24.08 – 12:21 am #
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Layla Anwar,

w inti iraqiya min al iraqiyaat al majidaat. aseela im’asala wal asel 3urbiya.

esh nareed ingool 3an bint al-iraq?
esh nuktub? esh nitba3?
in3idha’ ib-khawla wal khansa!?
bint i3raqna azyad ba3id titla3!.

you calling me a man really made me take a deep breath, hold my chest out, pull my shoulders back, make a fist and pound on my chest while I make animal noises. Thanks for rescuing me. This white “woman” almost damaged my ego.

Seriously, can you believe the stereotypes this thing basis its comments on? I think her and Tony need to make-up and attacking Iraqis is the easiest way.
Secular Arab 09.24.08 – 1:55 am #

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Layla Anwar and Secular Arab, why don’t you get married

and produce a little Saddam ?

brainwave 09.24.08 – 5:39 am #

This Is Zionism: Talmoud at Work


Palestinian woman beaten to death by Israel terrorist
Contributed by Lucia

A Palestinian woman in her 60s was beaten to death during a raid by the Israeli terrorist army near Occupied Jerusalem.

The director of the clinic where Mariam Ayyad was taken says she arrived dead, with a broken skull and possible internal bleeding. Relatives say the woman tried to block Israeli terrorist as they stormed her home to arrest students lodging in a property she owned in the village of Abu Dis. They said that Israeli terrorist beaten and pushed her out of the way, causing her to fall down stairs.

“She went outside in order to prevent them arresting someone from her house,” one of the students said. “They knocked her down and there was blood on her head.”

The Israeli terrorist army said the woman fell on a stairway but attributed the fall to an apparent heart attack. It denied that any Israeli terrorist shoved Ayyad or caused her to fall. Meanwhile doctors said Ayyad succumbed to her injuries from the shove. “The cause of death was being pushed to the ground and being struck in the head.”

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Twilight Zone / Dead on arrival
By Gideon Levy

Hawara Checkpoint

“A Palestinian woman died of injuries on Sunday after she was shoved to the ground by Israel Defense Forces soldiers conducting an arrest raid in a West Bank village, witnesses and a medical official said.
Palestinian sources said Mariam Ayyad, in her sixties, had tried to block the path of IDF soldiers who came to Abu Dis, near Jerusalem, overnight to detain students lodging in a property she owned. They said IDF soldiers shoved the woman who then hit the pavement.

The director of the clinic where Ayyad was taken says she arrived dead, with a broken skull and possible internal bleeding…..”

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This Is Zionism:

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Video: Israel shoots dead nine-year-old boy
Jul. 30th, 2008 at 10:21 AM

Shooting Back: Israeli occupation filmed by 100 Palestinian cameras
Mourners to protest murder of 10 year old boy

Added: July 29, 2008

In the occupied West Bank, Israeli soldiers have shot dead a nine-year-old Palestinian boy, near the village of Ni’lin, according to witnesses.

It happened at the end of a demonstration against the separation barrier Israel is building.

The Israeli military say they will conduct a full investigation.

Jacky Rowland reports.

Tags:activism,children,deaths,israel,palestinians,video

The Birds Shall Return



Beauty is truth, truth Beauty,
That’s all ye know on Earth,
And all ye need to know. John Keats”

A land without a people for a people without a land,” the usurpers dissembled.

And Fadwa Toqan retorted:

Never! Not with our red streams flowing forever,
not while the wine of our thorn limbs
fed the thirsty roots,
Arab roots alive tunneling deep,
deep, into the land!

And Mahmoud Darwish joined in;

I come from there and remember,
I was born like everyone is borne, I have a mother
and a house with many windows.

As Golda Meir bellowed:

“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.”

And Fadi Abu Sada was scared because seqestered in his Bethlehem house he thought that the noise from the firecrackers of the settlers celebrating their independence were bombs destined for his house, and the metaphor is apt…they dance on our graves.

Do these settlers care about the effect of their revelry on the indigenous population?
Do they feel remorse for actions of the past and present Zionists?
No!

When the hurricane swirled and spread its deluge of dark evil
othe good green land
‘they’ gloated.

They would be wise to heed the words of Dr. Salmon Abu Sitta:

In the years to come, I think the history of the Jews will probably not be marked by their historical role in the fate of Jesus Christ. That was a matter of religious interpretation of an event which took place 2000 years ago.

The history of the Jews will also likely not be marked by the Nazi atrocities in the Second World War. That was a black chapter in European history in which millions of many nationalities died in the heat of the war. It all stopped after the war.

Any reckoning of Jewish history will be indelibly marked by what they have done to the Palestinians. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians, seized their homes and property and obliterated the landscape — both historical and physical — that they had inhabited. For more than half a century this has been done during both war and peace, not by individual criminals but systematically by the state. It is still being done. There is no remorse, no atonement. On the contrary, there is more and more of the same. The tragic history of the Jews seems to have contained no lessons. It is as if their own suffering was in vain.

The old will die, and the young will forget, speculated David Ben Gurion.

But Laila Halaby and Rashid Hussein answered,”

Teach the night to forget to bringdreams showing me my village.”
And teach the wind to forget to carry to me
the aroma of apricots in my fields
And teach the sky, too, to forget to rain.”
My father closed his eyes.”
Only then, may I forget my country.”

And Abdelnasser Rashid echos his elders:

Palestine is my land, and I won’t let you take it – and while you put the world to sleep, I try to wake it.

And Fadwa Toqan elegantly concurs:

When the Tree rises up, the branches
Shall flourish green and fresh in the sun
the laughter of the Tree shall leaf
beneath the sun
and birds shall return Undoubtedly, the birds shall return.
The birds shall return.


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From Haven to Conquest: Readings in Zionism and the Palestine Problem Until 1948
by Walid Khalidi 1971, with a second printing in 1987

1947 UN Partition Plan
Anti-Semitism and Zionism
British Mandate period in Palestine
Historiography of the Israel/Palestine conflict
League of Nations and Palestine
Nakbah/Naqba (Arabic, “the catastrophe”) — expulsion of Palestinians in 1948
Palestinian refugees
Ethnic cleansing (euphemistically called “transfer”)
United Nations and Israel/Palestine
Brith Habirionim or Brit HaBiryonim (Hebrew “the Covenant of Thugs”)

Timeline event(s) mentioned in this item:
31 Aug 1945:
Truman asks Attlee to admit 100,000 Jews into Palestine
29 Nov 1947:
United Nations General Assembly approves UNSCOP partition plan for Palestine

Commentary: Book published by Institute for Palestine Studies; ISBN: 0887281559; (Second printing, October 1987). This is an anthology edited by Walid Khalidi. Authors of the articles included in the anthology are: Ilene Beatty, Alfred Guillaume, Burhan Ad-Din al Fazari, Miguel Asin, Cecil Roth, Stanley Lane-Poole, Elmer Berger, Zia Al-Khalidi, Oskar K. Rabinowicz, L. M. C. van der Hoeven Leonhard, Herbert Sidebotham, Edwin Montagu, Leonard Stein, Frank E. Manuel, J. M. N. Jeffries, Chaim Weizmann, Arthur Balfour, Louis D. Brandeis, Eustace Percy, Felix Frankfurter, W. F. Stirling, C. R. Ashbee, Chaim Arlosoroff, Michael Ionides, Vincent Sheean, Sir John Hope Simpson, Kingsley Martin, Alan Bullock, Ernest Main, Vladimir Jabotinsky, Nevill Barbour, Michael F. J. McDonnell, R. J. Manning, Sir Alec Seath Kirkbride, Frances E. Newton, Mahatma K. Gandhi, David Ben-Gurion, Leonard Mosley, A. Granott, Thomas Reid, Jon Kinche, David Kimche, Robert Briscoe, Stephen Wise, Morris L. Ernst, William Ernest Hocking, William A. Eddy, Kermit Roosevelt, Lieut.-General Sir Frederick Morgan, Francis Williams, Robert A. Divine, James V. Forrestal, Walter T. Stace, Abba Eban, Sir Muhammad Zafrulla Khan, General Carlos P. Romulo, Arnold Krammer, Lieut.-General Netanel Lorch, Jacques de Reynier, Harry Levin, Major R. D. Wilson, Lieut.-General Sir John Bagot Glubb, General aage Lundstrom, Erskine B. Childers, Hans Kohn.Abstract: From the Book Description: Now a classic in its field, From Haven to Conquest is a unique compendium of difficult-to-obtain or out-of-print material on Zionism and the history of Palestine to 1948. Eighty documents and first-hand accounts are supplemented by an introduction by Professor Khalidi, 22 maps and 30 pages of appendices providing detailed demographic and military statistics.

Extracts available online include:
On the Anti-Semitism of the Present Government, by Edwin Montagu, August 1917

To refer someone else to this item, use this URL: http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/art.php?aid=1184

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Right Of Return

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PALESTINIAN REFUGEE INFORMATION
Over 5 million Palestinian refugees scattered all over the earth demand the right to return to their homes in Palestine! Existing international law is solidly on their side.

Please read: The Palestinian Refugee’s Right Of Return Under International Law
Let us return home, let us return home!!!!

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights
(10 December 1948)
Article 13.2

– Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
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United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 (III) of 11 December 1948

Article 11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;
Instructs the Conciliation Commission to facilitate the repatriation, resettlement and economic and social rehabilitation of the refugees and the payment of compensation, and to maintain close relations with the Director of the United Nations Relief for Palestine Refugees and, through him, with the appropriate organs and agencies of the United Nations. See full Resolution HERE
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The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights of 1966
Article 12.4 – No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country.

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Our strength is in the camps & No peace without an end to exile

Article: The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined
Palestinian Refugees Right to Return and Repatriation
Open letter from Dr. Salman Abu Sitta to Yasser Arafat Regarding Dr. Sari Nusseibeh’s Challenging The Palestinian Right Of Return
Debate Between Salman Abu Sitta and Michael Lerner of Tikkun on The Right of Return
Holding on to hopePalestinians keep dream of return aliveLaila El-Haddad
ON-LINE BOOK: “Palestinian Refugees and their Right of Return”
Al Awda Colorado – Palestinian Right of Return Coalition

A refugee’s open letter to Abbas

Abdelfattah Abusrour,
The Electronic Intifada
September 19, 2008

Dear Mr. President:

My name is Abdelfattah Abdelkarim Hasan Ibrahim Mohamad Ahmed Mostafa Ibrahim Srour Abusrour. I was born in the Aida Refugee camp, on rented land from Palestinian owners from Bethlehem. My two eldest brothers as well as my father and his father and all those who were born before them, originate form Beit Nateef village destroyed on 21 October 1948. My mother was born in Zakareya village, also destroyed in 1948 by the Zionist bandits. I grew up in the Aida refugee camp. When I was four years old, I remember most of the people in the camp hiding in a cave behind our house. I remember the old people talking about the war. I remember the sky full of planes, and all of the young children covered by black blankets, and cherished by their mothers. I remember the first curfew after the Israeli occupation in Aida camp in 1968. I remember the first Israeli soldier, who was an old Iraqi Jew of about 60 years old. I remember the day my second brother was invited for an interview by the military occupation administration in 1972, and never returning back to the house.

I remember that he was exiled six months later, without any confession, without any judgment or court sentence. I remember that we were fed the love of this occupied country, because it is ours. I remember the rusty keys of our houses in Beit Nateef, keys for doors that exist no more, but keys that have their doors in our hearts and our imaginations, keys for doors that were real and are now gone, for real houses that were built and are now gone, in which real people lived in and brought up children. These rusty keys are still with me. I remember that we were brought up with the eternal belief that the right of return is the right, and nothing can justify abandoning it.

I remember that our right of return to our original villages and homes is eternal, and nothing can change it, neither realities on the ground nor political agreements, because it is not only a collective right, but an individual right. It is my right, Mr. President, and the right of my children and grandchildren, and all those who come after, wherever they are born.

Dear Mr. President:

I remember the death of my mother, on 9 September 2003. She was 75 years old. I remember the death of my father on 26 December 2006. He was 96 years old. My mother and my father were hoping to be buried in their village, where they got married, where they brought up their children, where they irrigated their land with their sweat, blood and tears, where they filled their land with joy, happiness, laughs and whispers. My parents are buried in the cemetery of Aida camp. My mother’s tomb is next to a military tower, and surrounded by Israeli barbed wire. My mother’s tomb is not accessible, I can’t visit it on a day of feast to recite on her tomb al-Fatiha or a surah from the Holy Quran.

Dear Mr. President:

I was full of hope that after 60 years of occupation, after 60 years of armed and non-armed resistance we could achieve something other than shallow promises. I was full of hope that we will never give up our rights, these rights that are recognized by the whole world, even if the whole world remains complicit with injustice. I was full of hope that nothing can justify giving up such rights, with all the realities on the ground that say otherwise, what heritage are we leaving to our children and the generations to come? Should we say to them: Go to where the wind takes you, never stand up and resist oppression? That it is more important to stay alive even if it is a life of humiliation and non-recognition of belonging to a human race?

Where are you taking us, Mr. President? To what desert are you leading us? To what catastrophe?

How dare you decide how many refugees can or cannot return? Who gave you permission to speak in my name, and in my children’s name? Who asked you to barter our rights? What is the price for the sale of an entire people’s rights and their sacrifices for 60 years?

Where UN resolutions talk about the right of return and compensation for the suffering in exile as refugees, for all this exploitation of lands and properties, for all this humiliation and torture that worsens every day, you dare to say that not everybody wants to return? Even if this is the case, they have their right to their homes and lands, whether they want to return or not. They can sell it to others if they want, but it is not up to you to decide.

It is not your right or anyone’s to say “those who don’t want to return should be compensated.”

Every single refugee must be compensated for these 60 years of Nakba [catastrophe]: those who left or were forced to leave, those who are owners of lands, those who had their fields and oranges and fruit trees. Yes, the oranges of Jaffa were before Israel and they will remain after Israel, if they are not destroyed like the thousand-year-old olive trees were. You were not elected to give away our rights, to give away the hopes and dreams and rights of a people who are still in refugee camps, living on rented lands and have waited and struggled to return to their original homes and lands for the past 60 years. Day after day, week after week, month after month, and year after year, we are living on lies and broken promises of change. Well change comes, but for the worse and not the better. Nothing improves with all these negotiations, Mr. President. Should we undress ourselves and show our nudity so that Ehud Olmert, and the Israeli occupation forces are satisfied that we have nothing to hide?

Yesterday, Israel distributed papers in East Jerusalem using the Holy Quran and the Bible to say that they are fulfilling the promise of God to populate Israel and chase away every non-Jewish person. And we should understand that and help them, by leaving the country because we have so many other countries for us to go to? And then we can live in peace and our children will be happy with their children and things will be great?

Is this the next step, Mr. President? Is it because colonies on the ground are expanding, and we can’t force our presence on Israel, that we should be nice so that the whole world will be sympathetic to us, that we must do whatever Israel wants us to do? And then we talk about painful compromises and difficult solutions, we should be the nice ones who make the compromise, who forgive, who forget, who give up, who leave or die because that would solve it all? Mr. President: I am not ready to leave. I will never leave, even if it is the only way to earn a living. I will never give up my right to return to my village, even if I have a castle in the UK, and a chateau in France, and chalet at the Red Sea, and property in the Bahamas. My right is mine, and neither you nor anybody else has the right to erase it and exchange it or play with it. I do hope that you will leave your tower of ignorance to the needs of your people and descend for a moment on the ground and look in the eyes of those who still have a passion for this country, despite the disasters that we have sank into with such futile and fruitless negotiations, while Palestinian blood is shed daily by those with whom you negotiate.

Have we no shame to stop such a circus? I would have loved, Mr. President, that such energy in negotiations be invested among Palestinians who are still in dispute, and because of such stubbornness from you political advisers, it is not you who suffer, but your people. Are we so worthless that we do not deserve your time and energy to stop this circus and unite your people? Is it not enough that we are only considered a humanitarian problem that is worth no more than a sack of flour or a bottle of oil or expired medication?

Is it not enough that a whole population has been transformed into beggars, living in poverty and dependent on charity rather than helping them to be productive and maintain their dignity? Isn’t the humiliation of the occupation enough? Must we only wait for greater humiliations to come? I am full believer in peace and nonviolence. I am a full believer in hope and right and justice. I am a full believer in the values that make humanity what it is. I never learned to hate. I never hated anyone. My parents were full of love and peace. They never taught me or my brothers anything other than respect for others and endless love to give and help others. They taught us that when you practice violence you lose part of your humanity. But at the same time, they taught us to defend what is right and to stand against what is unjust and wrong.

Therefore, Mr. President, I dare to say that you have no right, even as President to give up our rights, the rights of two-thirds of your people to return in dignity to their destroyed lands and properties and to be compensated for their suffering and exile, and the seizure of their lands and fields and the stealing of their funds in British banks or other banks by the Zionists.

Mr. President: I don’t know if you will read these words or not, or if I will be alive if you do. But I do hope that these words, which come from the heart, reach your heart, Mr. President, and that you can find the hope and strength that our people — your people — still have. We do not give up our rights. We will never give up our rights. Peace can be built with justice. Real peace can be built with real justice, anything else is just a joke in the face of history.

My name is Abdelfattah Abdelkarim Hasan Ibrahim Mohamad Ahmed Mostafa Ibrahim Srour Abusrour. I am still a refugee in my own country with two rusty keys to his house.

Abdelfattah Abusrour, PhD is the Director of the Al-Rowwad Cultural and Theatre Training Center, an independent center for artistic, cultural, and theatre training for Palestinian children in the Aida Refugee Camp. The Center provides a “safe” and healthy environment to help Palestinian children creatively discharge stress in the war-time conditions in which they live.
Link: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9842.shtml

The Myth of Jewish Refugees from Arab Land

The Myth Of Jewish Refugees From Arab Land http://mparent7777.blogspot.com/2007/04/myth-of-jewish-refugees-from-arab-land.html April 23, 2007 By Dr. Elias Akleh

Victimizing the Jews has been the successful old political trick Zionists have been using to gain international political sympathy for the Israeli cause, and to justify all aggression and terror the Israeli army perpetrates on Palestinians and on the neighboring Arab countries. Whenever the international views turn against Israel, due to its aggression, a new Jewish victimizing story pops up. One such late story I happened to come across on page 106 of March 19th. 2007 issue of U.S. News Magazine, was titled “You deserve a factual look at… The Forgotten Refugees. Why does nobody care about the Jewish refugees from Arab lands?” The article was published as an advertisement by FLAME (Facts and Logic About the Middle East), who claims to “publish the truth about Israel and the Middle East conflict in advertisements and letters to editors nationwide.” The advertisement claims that there exist what it called Jewish refugees from Arab countries, and makes some comparison between these Jewish refugees and Arab refugees in an attempt to point to alleged international injustice when the UN spends “… many billions of dollars” on the Arab refugees while forgetting the Jewish refugees. The advertisement tries to avoid calling the Arab refugees by their true name: Palestinian refugees, in an attempt to deny any moral and legal responsibility of Zionist Israel in violating Palestinians’ human rights and creating Palestinian refugee problem. The advertisement attempts to refute “A myth that Jews had an easy life in Muslim/Arab countries”. It claims that Jews under Islam were treated worse than second class citizens “governed by a system of discrimination intended to reduce Jews … to conditions of humiliation, segregation and violence”. The truth is that Jews were treated, under Islam in the Arab World, better than any other place they had lived in the whole world at the time. They were treated like any other ethnic groups, e.g. Christians, with full citizenship that included freedom and rights like the rest of the citizens. They were allowed to live and worship freely in Jerusalem, where they were barred entrance by ancient Romans and European Christian Crusaders. When European Jews faced persecution since the start of Crusaders campaigns, they did not find any safe haven for themselves except in Islamic and Arab countries in North Africa and in the Middle East.

Many of those Jews fought along side Muslim and Christian Arabs against the Crusaders, who called for the slaughter of every Jew for crucifying Jesus. In his book “Bitter Harvest” Palestinian scholar Sami Hadawi described this Jewish haven as follows: “During the Middle Ages, North Africa and the Arab Middle East became places of refuge and a haven for the persecuted Jews of Spain and elsewhere… In the Holy Land they lived together in harmony, a harmony only disrupted when the Zionists began to claim that Palestine was the ‘rightful’ possession of the ‘Jewish people’ to the exclusion of its Moslem and Christian inhabitants”

The Jewish writer Dan Peretz described this situation in his book “The Arab Israeli Dispute” as follows: “Most Jews in Palestine belonged to old Yishuv, or community, that had settled there more for religious than for political reasons. There was little of any conflict between them and the Arab population. Tension began after first Zionist settlers arrived in the 1880’s” Although given freedom like any other citizens a group of the Jews, believing themselves to be the elite God’s chosen people, who should not mix and mingle with the others, “Goyims”, as been taught by their prophets, had isolated themselves into ghettos the same way they had lived throughout Europe. Those, who had the courage to venture out of the ghettos, had flourished and reached high employment positions in Arabic governments and societies. Many had become the financial and trade centers of the Arab World.

This fact contradicts the advertisement claims that Jews “… were excluded from society, from government, and from most professions … They were barely tolerated and often… were victimized by vicious violence” Some extremist fundamentalist Jews, who had their noses up in the sky believing themselves to be the chosen people and better than all other nations, had invited rejection and intolerance from all nations, not just from Arabs, to such snobby racist attitudes. The advertisement goes on further to claim that Jews in the Arab World were subjected to systematic violence and persecution after the establishment of Israel in 1948 and after Six Days War in 1967.

“When Israel declared its statehood in 1948, programs broke out across the entire Arab/Muslim world. Thousands died in this violence… The vast majority of those Jews fled from where they had lived for centuries. They had to leave everything behind. Most of those who were able to escape found their way to the just-created state of Israel” The programs, the advertisement does not clarify, were terrorist acts perpetrated by Zionists against Jewish communities in the Arab World, as well as throughout European countries to coerce the Jews to immigrate to Palestine to establish the alleged safe haven; Israel, on usurped Palestinian land. Zionist zealots and some mercenaries had fire-bombed Jewish synagogues and shops, damaged Jewish cemeteries, and painted hate graffiti to create anti-Jewish climate. Zionist offer of free transportation, free housing, and free salaries had encouraged a lot of Jews to surrender their fate to the Zionist plan.

Those, who immigrated, had plenty of time to sell their properties before leaving. The Arabs, contrary to the claims, did not subject their long-time neighboring Jews to violence since they distinguished between a Jew and a Zionist. Yet those Jews, who were disillusioned by Zionism and became “enemy combatants” and spies within the Arab World, had to be dealt with as such. The advertisement brags about “Israel received every one of those Jewish refugees from Arab countries with brotherly open arms; it housed, fed and quickly integrated them into Israeli society”.

It is true that Zionist Israel had received immigrant Jews, paid all expenses including transportation, rent, and monthly salaries until they were integrated in Israeli society. Yet this reception was not out of brotherly love. Those immigrant Jews were, deliberately, drowned into financial debt so that they could not leave Israel, after discovering the trap set for them, without repaying all the expenses plus interests. Young Jewish immigrants, and every new generation of their offsprings, have been conscripted into the Israeli terrorist army to kill and to be killed for the interests of rich pro-Zionist corporations of the West.

The advertisement repeats the old myth, that had been told and refuted so many times, that Palestinians had fled from Palestine after the Israeli occupation “… following the strident invocations of their leaders …so as to make room for invading Arab armies”, who according the advertisement will kill all the Jews so that Palestinians “could return to reclaim their properties and that of the Jews, all of whom would have been killed …” by Arab armies. Palestinians, like any other people, would never leave their homes voluntarily, and Arab leaders had never invoked them to leave. Sami Hadawi refuted this claim in his book “Bitter Harvest” stating the fact that “British Broadcasting Corporation monitored all Middle Eastern broadcasts throughout 1948. The records, and companion ones by a US monitoring unit, can be seen at the British Museum. There was not a single order or appeal, or suggestion about evacuation from Palestine from any Arab radio station, inside or outside Palestine in 1948.

There is a repeated monitored record of Arab appeals, even flat orders, to the civilians of Palestine to stay put”. This myth aims to erase guilt and moral responsibilities off Jewish shoulders for perpetrating the cruelest and ugliest massacres against mostly unarmed Palestinian villagers, and parading their women and children in the streets of Jerusalem to terrorize the rest of the Palestinians into fleeing out of their villages for their lives and for their honor when Zionist terror organizations, such as Irgun and Hagana, spread the rumors of their plans to attack Palestinian villages.

Jewish historian Ilan Pappe, in his book “The Link”, mentions this fact: “The Israeli forces expelled the Palestinians from every village and town they occupied. In some cases, this expulsion was accompanied by massacres of civilians as was the case in Lydda, Ramleh, Dawimiyya, Sa’sa, Ein Zietun and other places. Expulsion also accompanied by rape, looting and confiscation”. During wars people panic and flee their homes searching for safety. Yet they have always been able to return to their homes when danger subsides.

Military conquest does not abolish private rights to property, nor does it entitle the victor to confiscate properties of civilian population. Even if the claims were true that Palestinians left their homes on the commands of their leaders, they still have the right to return to their homes and properties that had been stolen by Zionist immigrants. This right is protected by international law as noted by the noted Jewish writer and thinker Professor Erich Fromm “In international law, the principle holds true that no citizen loses his property or his right of citizenship; and the citizenship right is de facto a right to which the Arabs in Israel have much more legitimacy than the Jews”.

Israel’s rejection of Palestinians’ right of return has been on the top of their political agenda, which led them to break all UN resolutions regarding this matter, break all international laws, violate Palestinians’ human rights, and reject all Arab peace initiatives. The advertisement continues with its allegations “… the Arab countries resolutely refused to accept Arab refugees into their societies. They confined them into so-called refugee camps …to keep them as a festering sore and to make solution of the Arab/Israel conflict impossible. These refugees, whose number has by now miraculously increased from their original 650 thousands to 5 millions, are seething with hatred toward Israel, and provide the cadres for terrorists and suicide bombers” The Arab countries, mainly Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon, had received the majority of Palestinian refugees, who became a burden on the already impoverished economy of these countries, who, unlike Israel, were not receiving three billions of Dollars annually from the US.

The majority of these refugees (now numbers about 7.5 million and not only 5 million) want to go back to their own homeland and their homes that were illegally occupied by terrorist Israelis. They fight to regain what is rightfully theirs, unlike the terrorist Israeli army, who fight to usurp lands of other people. As for the solution of the Arab/Israeli conflict, the Arabs had offered Israel many peaceful solutions, yet Israelis categorically rejected them because without the conflict they could not keep usurping more lands to build “Greater Israel”. The latest Arab peace initiative of last month, March 2007, offered Israel to keep 78% of Palestine for permanent peace and normalization of diplomatic relationships with all Arab countries. Yet Israel, as usual, rejected this offer.

The advertisement acknowledges that “since 1947 there have been over 100 UN resolutions concerning Palestinian refugees, but there has not been one single resolution addressing the horrible injustice done to the nearly one million Jewish refugees from the Arab states” This paragraph refutes the advertisement’s claim by showing that the international community has recognized and acknowledged the existence of a genuine Palestinian refugee problem, and the non existence of the false called-for Jewish refugees from Arab countries. That is why “a special branch of the United Nation (UNRWA) exists for the maintenance of those refugees” (created by Israelis) as the article notices.

Israel, backed by successive American administrations, had ignored those UN resolutions that aimed to solve the Palestinian refugees’ problem, rather than spending billion of Dollars “contributed by the US” as the advertisement objects. It, also, totally ignores the attention the world had focused on the issue of the Holocaust, the compensation in hundreds of billions of Dollars to Israeli Jews, making even the study of the Holocaust an international crime, and sentencing, fining and imprisoning all the renowned historians, who questioned some of its details. The advertisement criticizes the Arab’s justifiable right to ask for compensations, and the Palestinian refugees’ legitimate right to return to their homeland, “what has been Israel for almost 60 years”, where Palestinian tribes had lived for over than three thousand years. It concludes by stating “But if there is to be any compensation, those forgotten Jewish refugees are certainly entitled to such compensation as much as the Arab refugees. Anything else would be an outrage and a great injustice”

The advertisement neglected to mention the most important point in this refugee issue, namely that the Palestinian refugees were forcefully ejected from their homes according to the Zionist ideology that is based on the idea of “people substitution”; the expulsion ‘transfer’ of Palestinians out of Palestine, and the implanting of Jews in their place. The idiom of “Jewish state is unthinkable without compulsory transfer of the Arabs to the Arab states” had been adopted since the first Zionist Congress in Basle in 1897, and had been repeated by notorious Zionist leaders such as British Zionist Israel Zangwill, Haim Weisman, Theodor Herzl, Nahman Syrkin (founder of Social Zionism), Selig Soskin (director of Jewish National Fund), and many others. On the other hand the so-called Jewish refugees (Zionist Jews) from Arab countries had plenty of time to plan their leave and to liquidate all their properties, and to be fed, resettled and compensated directly by American tax money, where the annual three billion Dollars financial aid pays almost $3,000.00 monthly for every Israeli, not mentioning all the economic aid and tons and tons of military equipment that are given freely to the terrorist Israeli army to inflict terror on Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis and Iranians.

Finally the advertisement gives a comparison between bogus numbers of the Jews in some Arab countries before and after 1948; countries where Zionists had successfully transferred their Jewish population to occupied Palestine (Israel). It ignores to mention the large number of Jews, who are still living, flourishingly, in Northern African Muslim Arab countries, in Turkey, and even in Iran (the so-called extremist Islamic and terrorist supporting country), that houses the largest Jewish population, 25,000 of them, in the Middle East outside Israel, and are represented by a Jewish MP, Maurice Mohtamed. The publishing organization (FLAME) of this so-called “factual look”, whose claimed purpose is the research, publication of facts, and exposing false propaganda about the Middle East, seems to do the exact opposite; it distorts the facts and spreads false propaganda instead. The simple truth of the Arab/Israeli conflict had been reflected by Indian leader and peace teacher Mahatma Ghandi when he stated: “Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English and France belongs to the French”

The tale of two Talmuds

The tale of two Talmuds
“Running two sets of books” is a term generally used in regards to false accounting, something perhaps a company would do to avoid paying tax or something you would associate with US Treasury Accounting Department in regards to inflation, money supply or the cost of wars to control ME oil. But no in this case my title was prompted by something a Zionist wrote in a forum which I’m not even a member of, he wrote “Here is an accusation that the Talmud has been hid and changed. Though I am not going to waste my time verifying, I believe their are early versions of the Talmud that are older than the oldest version of the Koran, that have only been changed by translation.”Now whether that’s a deliberate lie or simply a case of ignorance I’m not sure. Consider this website http://www.lee-achim.de/html/HebBooks.htm , it’s not a site that is motivated by politics, simply a site where someone is trying to sell old copies of the Talmud. It states “Old Talmud editions, the first uncensored Amsterdam edition; I quote “The first Amsterdam edition of the Babylonian Talmud in the printing house of Emmanuel Benbenisti 1645/48 was the first Talmud edition without the Christian censorship after the three classical Venice editions of the 16th century that were almost completely burnt.

All the missing parts on Jesus, his disciples and early Christianity are restored in this edition, and also the dismission of words as goim, nokri, kuti and alike. After this edition all Talmud editions are again censored till the 20th century, including the following Amsterdam editions of Proops and the classic Wilna edition more than 200 years later.

“In other words parts of the Talmud regarding the Jews natural hatred of Christianity, in fact any religion apart from their own, were censored out for 300 hundred years or so but now have been re-introduced into this book of hate. The Jews are in fact running two separate books, two versions of the Talmud, one which has been sanitised for goy eyes, without the Judaism Uber Alles and the superiority of Jews over lesser creatures and the version which is actually used by Rabbis all over the word in corrupting the minds of Zionist Youth. So next time when you quote back to a Zionist some of the extremely offensive and anti-Christ sections of the Talmud, only to be told that that doesn’t even appear in the book, just ask them which version do they mean.

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